update on Chavez and Mia

[cushti]

[We need to email them AND bombard their switchboard with phone calls to drive the message home. Imagine their reactions when they realize we are calling from all over the U.S. [/B][/QUOTE]

Would it help if my friends and I over here in the UK email them?
Perhaps if they knew that even people as far away as the UK were concerned enough over this injustice to voice complaints?

I would be grateful if anyone could give me the email addresses I may need.

I am so sorry for the distress that this must be causing you.

Janice :(

 

[0728avila]

Ok More Updates.

I think the calling might help, except I live outside of the city limits. Mia is alive and well. I can't say how I got her back just yet, but I am at war with the Sheriff's Department. I still have not been able to attain a copy of the incident report. Apparently someone is ill and he is the proofreader! The # to the Sheriff's Department is (830) 774-7513. The Sheriff's name is D'wayne Jernigan. Oh yeah, the livestock was on someone else's property. My kids let the dogs out and they got through two fences. As of yet, there is no evidence of an attack, except that the deputy who told me that he did not see the dogs bite the lamb has written otherwise on the report. (Inside info). There are lot's of discrepancies and contradictions. In the law enforcement world these are called articulable facts and creative writing. LIES!!!!!!! I'll keep ya'll updated

 

[0728avila]

Yet another update on Chavez and Mia.

I am sending this to the local paper!

On Monday March 1, 2003, two sheriff’s deputies shot my dogs for attacking some livestock. I was told the male boxer was killed on site, yet I found him about 7 yards from my back fence. There is no livestock in that pasture. The livestock in question is more than 150 yards away, across two fences. I spoke with the deputies, and when my female wounded boxer made her way home (2 hours later) I called the Sheriff’s Department. I was turning in this viscous animal. I refused to allow them to shoot her in front of my children. They called a local veterinarian to pick her up and have her killed. At this time the deputy told me there was no way around it and the animal would absolutely have to be put down. I consented. Later during our conversation, the deputy said he NEVER saw the dogs bite the livestock. Upon closer inspection of the livestock, there was no visible bite marks or physical damage of any kind. This totally shocked me. They then said they saw the dogs paw at a newborn lamb and knock her down. This is the playful mannerism of the Boxer, hence the name. Our dogs sleep in the pens with our own little humble herd of goats. Wouldn’t a reasonable person believe that if a 90-LB “viscous” dog “attacked” a 5-LB lamb, the lamb would be dead? What about TWO dogs? They would be picking their teeth with the lambs bones by the time the Sheriff’s Department arrived.
I am not asking for compassion, sympathy, nor monetary compensation, only fair treatment. No amount of money can replace these dogs. They were part of the family. My son cried out to me, “they killed my best friend!” He’s only 5 years old. How do I explain to the children that their best friends were killed? They asked me if the lambs were hurt. Should I lie and tell them yes, when in fact they weren’t? I know of a factual incident where two dogs mutilated a goat and a deputy saw the attack. These animals were not killed. No fine. Nothing. I am sure this is not the only time this has happened. All that I ask for is everyone to be treated equally.

 

[Rowdy's Dad]

I would make them show me bite marks that match your dogs' teeth. I bet they can't come up with them. I would retrieve Chavez's body first so they can't manufacture them.

 

[rog1006]

Hey there-
I think that info to the police dept will get edited out because putting phone #'s and names on BW isn't allowed, so should we want to contact the Sheriff's Office for you, can we PM you to get the name and phone #?? If we call, exactly what is approproate to say? I wouldn't want to make matters worse for you or Mia by saying too much or not enough!
We're with ya--keep your head up!!

-christine
Ty and Molly

 

[ssleighter]

In case they edit, you can find all numbers and email addresses for City Officials at: www.cityofdelrio.com

 

[0728avila]

yes, get a hold of me! That website won't help, because the city and County are totally separate and this happened way out of the city limits. Say whatever you'd like!

 

[Thomas Liggin]

I absolutely hate to read about these tragic events. It is indeed worse than unfortunate that one of your Boxers is dead, and Mia is under such a cloud. It is a bitter and difficult lesson.

This could have happened to Indy last year. Just thinking about it makes me want to cry. I was visiting with our daughter for a couple of weeks last fall. Kristie and her husband Joie operate Waterdog Kennels in Temple, GA about 40 miles west of Atlanta.

They have a large fenced off portion of their land with technical ponds for training retrievers. The have a horse and a neighbor has a few head of cattle in this enclosure.

There was one opening in the fence that a dog could get through, and of course Indy found it. To him, the animals must have looked like big dogs, and someone to play with. As is the nature of Boxers he had to investigate. So he approached them then began to circle them, whining and barking, trying to get them to play.

I knew he posed no threat to them, but I was fearful that he might have been kicked by the horse or one of the cattle since he was sniffing at their heels. I had to go into the enclosure to get him since he ignored my calls.

After reading this thread, had some gun happy nut come along, he might have used Indy for target practice. But on the other hand he might have been justified if he had reason to believe that Indy had posed a threat to the livestock.

Fortunately the livestock were used to dogs, so his antics didn't send them into flight. Had they, he most certainly would have followed along thinking it was a wonderful game.

I know that I will check the entire length of that fence for holes before I let Indy run loose when I visit this fall.

My condolences and hopes that Mia can be spared.


Tom

 

[Slugger6969]

Ya know. I wonder about herding breeds. How would they act if a Corgi was circling and barking at livestock. That's instinct at work; something that can't be trained out of the dog. Mia, by chance, doesn't have her herding instinct certificate does she? That would be a great arguement.

 

[Holden's Mom]

Good point, slugger. I have a friend whose livelyhood is raising and breeding sheep. They have Scooby and Snoopy, two Pyrenees, to protect the lambs and sheep from coyotes and other predators. These two working dogs are so protective of their charges that my friend or her family must be there to let the vet examine the sheep. But this is all on their property, so there should be no complaints.

This whole incident is so disturbing. I grew up on a farm in the 50's and 60's. We raised crops, fed hogs and chickens. Mom would on rare occasion find cats in the henhouse. We worked harder to secure the henhouse. We never killed the neighbors cats or called the local sherriff to come to the aid of our chickens. We simply called the neighbors and worked it out. Never knew when you needed that neighbor as a friend in rural Indiana.

I hope Mia is spared. I feel so sorry for Chavez and his family.