what's right? need help I dont know what to do! please help (long)

[kitten]

ok the black and white line of right and wrong reasoning is gray here I dont know how to help this pup.

I'm sitting here watching the snow pile up outside thinking of a poor flashy brindal boxer up the road on a chain!

1.now the the problem is that I cant take another my land lord wont let me for starters

2. the owners friends with my hubby. I didnt have aramis 24 hours and he seen my pup and was asking why i didnt get a female (he has a male)

3. I live in a busy part of my road one trip out to go potty and a kidnaped dog would be found! so i cant kidnap him. and I'm not sure if my hubby wouldnt give me away just to stay on the land lords good side.

but my pups seen snow for the first time today and while they loved it and ran laps around the yard. it wasnt a 1/2 hour before they wanted inside to warm up and dry off. and I relised just how fast they realy do get cold in the snow. only now how do i save this poor boxer and not get cought with him or word get back that I got him help. I live way, way out in the country and word like this could be a bad thing for a person. but thares no love on the end of a chain. I can almost garrentee that the pup's never been indoors, no less have inside mannors. and one other thing I know this man raises fighting roosters I know for a fact he used to. not sure about now, but I dont think he'd spent that much time with a dog to teach him in such ways. at least I'd pray not! I go past him on our walks he seems like a bouncey wiggley boxer from the road in the summer. and he always talks to mine and wants to play (I think) but he needs help! and soon I think I was told he was a little over a year I wouldnt give him two years old yet he acts like a pup. he'd be easy to get he's far away from the house, but he's a talker....


I .....he needs some help fast I dont want to see this poor pups toes frozen and I'm sure his water is a ice cube by now. can boxer toes get frost bite? I realy think this pup would be a typical sweet boxer he does that sit and wiggle realy good when I talk to him from the road. I just think the owner is careless, heartless, and needs a boxer owner for a shrink!



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mom of....
D'artagnan: semi-flashy fawn male croped and docked 12/4/99
Aramis: flashy brindal docked, we are leaveing him with natural ears! 7/8/00

 

[tedjax]

Do you have an animal control person in your area? or an animal rescue? They will usually let you leave an anonymous message. This baby needs rescued. How close friends are your husband and these people? Maybe he could mention boxers and cold...for example, the expense of treating the dog for frostbite or hypothermia(sp). That is sooo sad. Is there a boxer rescue in your area? By the way, is rooster fighting illegal in your area? It is here. That could be one way to save the boxer. Call the authorities anonymously and report him. Will any of this work? I would probably just go to his house and gently tell him to bring the dog in to some shelter. Is he a violent person??

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Trish
Indy-Neutered, Natural, Fawn, Flashy-10/6/98
Beauty-Spayed,Cropped, Fawn, Black Mask-9/20/94; Adopted from rescue in New Orleans
Shiloh-10/18/85 to 10/14/98; Waiting for me at the Bridge

 

[Badassboxer]

Wow, that's really messed up. I will be straight forth with you, you should do something but what, I don't know. There are very fuzzy lines between the black and white.

You could take the dog at night - but sounds like that may not be the best idea or this person sounds like they may just go out and get another.

You could try to talk with the owners to figure out why they won't bring him indoors and hopefully work something out!

You could call a local Boxer Rescue if you have one. They will be able to make connections to get the dog taken away.

This is a hard one, as you will have to figure out what works best in that situation.

I don't know anything at all about snow, but I'm assuming that if a dog stays out in the snow, it would die…- is that right? If that is case, you have to do something. If the dog won't die, but be very uncomfortable, maybe you could help out in devising something like a dog house for the dog to take refuge from the cold.

I wish I was there to help you out, I hate to see an animal suffer. Our neighbor keeps her dog outside - even in the heat (117 degrees or more) so we told her where to get a mister system; she did and now even though her dog is outdoors, it has a mister to run through. Please let us know what happens. Good luck on your decision, I pray it works out best for you and the dog!

 

[RileyMom]

I have seen lots of posts on here from Robyn in Bel Air, MD. I think she works with a local boxer rescue group at http://www.boxerrescue.com/

I'm sure if you poke around on the site you may be able to get in touch with her or she may see you first!

I hope you get the poor guy some help soon.

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Riley: (9/6/00) classic brindle male, natural ears, docked tail. Best pup on earth.
Lacy: ('85-'99) beautiful female Chocolate Lab. Best pup no longer on earth.

 

[kitten]

I cant be sure if he still fights the roosters I knew he did years ago him and my hubby grew up together they were neighbors play mate growing up. he's not voilent but takeing his dog wont make him a happy camper. and enen though I take good care of my pups i dont want him to start haveing me inspected every other week playing my own game. if thares a way to do this and my name not come up but me start it I would and if anyone wants to kidnap him I'll show you the house! I just cant keep him here without being found out.

the snows knee high to a boxer and still falling!

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mom of....
D'artagnan: semi-flashy fawn male croped and docked 12/4/99
Aramis: flashy brindal docked, we are leaveing him with natural ears! 7/8/00

[This message has been edited by kitten (edited 12-19-2000).]

 

[jbee]

offer to buy the dog.

 

[Matt & Mana]

The best interest of the dog is the right thing. My advice is to contact the owner of the dog. (Let the fact that he is a friend be an advantage in being able to contact, not a disadvantage - I know that may be hard, but you have to make it happen). Once you do that, just tell him the truth about the boxer's situation. If he is a worthy friend and can see that you are speaking out of concern and compassion then he will probably respect and listen to what you have to say.
But,then, if he doesn't do anything about it, you need to contact somebody, such as a boxer rescue.
Remember the right thing is to help the boxer. Good luck, I've got confidence that you can make good things happen.
Keep us posted.

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Owner of 1yro, 85lb, male
fawn boxer named Oscar.
www.Sublime-Dog.com

 

[Matt & Mana]

The best interest of the dog is the right thing. My advice is to contact the owner of the dog. (Let the fact that he is a friend be an advantage in being able to contact, not a disadvantage - I know that may be hard, but you have to make it happen). Once you do that, just tell him the truth about the boxer's situation. If he is a worthy friend and can see that you are speaking out of concern and compassion then he will probably respect and listen to what you have to say.
But,then, if he doesn't do anything about it, you need to contact somebody, such as a boxer rescue.
Remember the right thing is to help the boxer. Good luck, I've got confidence that you can make good things happen.
Keep us posted.

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Owner of 1yro, 85lb, male
fawn boxer named Oscar.
www.Sublime-Dog.com

 

[Alisha Mobley]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Badassboxer:


I don't know anything at all about snow, but I'm assuming that if a dog stays out in the snow, it would die…- is that right? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I can't say for sure about this particular dog but my Tyson was 5 months when we bought him. He was an outside dog and we kept him outside until about 2 months ago. He was fine in the winter and snow. The reason I wanted him inside wasn't because of the winter and cold but because I know how Boxers are people dogs. They love to be with their family. Tyson was never kept outside alone he was always with another dog but I still wanted him with his human family. Thankfully I finally talked my husband into keeping all 3 of our Boxers inside. I can't say for sure this Boxer wouldn't die but I know mine didn't and we have a neighbor with a Boxer that stays outside. He is about 2 1/2 years old and has always been outside.

I do agree that if there is anything you could do to rescue this Boxer then do it. Not so much because of the cold but because of the loneliness he must be feeling. Although Tyson was kept outside he was with me during the day outside and would come inside with me during the day. He was not stuck out in the back yard and forgot about. That's the worse thing that could be done to any dog. I'm not sure what the law is in your area but maybe if you talk to someone and provide them with info about Boxers and how they are not recommended to be kept outside this would help in rescuing this Boxer. If not call the humane society one day when it is very cold and tell them you about him. If they go out there and his water is frozen the owners will be in trouble (well, that's how it is here). In my area a dog must be provided shelter and water at all times. Frozen water doesn't work. Maybe you can try and talk to the owners. Take them tons of info on Boxers and how to care for them. But it sounds like if they are heartless enough to chain a dog in their back yard and forget about it they wont care how much info you bring them. :( It also makes it hard because if you try talking to them and it doesn't work then send someone out to their house I'm sure they will suspect you. This is a very hard decision to make and I wish you luck. Keep us posted on what you decide.

Alisha - Indiana


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[kitten]

I dont think info would help I think they'd have the attiude that its a dog and will be fine......

I thought about buying him but I'm of limited monies and I think this guy would try to make some money off of it....

and if I confrount him and then the dog was taken I know he'd blame me and try to start leagal trouble with me. I'm looking at the boxer rescue now trying to find robyn if she is a start it just might work.... my local pound are not very good at being strict on such things I know cause my neighbor behind me last year went for a weeks vacation and they have a little pomerainain(sp) tied outside it didnt have food or water for a week I tended to it without permision. my land lord called (he's thares too) the local shelter they just told them that the dog needed water all the time and left it at that I think the rescue would work better. I hope.