Boxerma & Heather,
I'm not going to apologize for my post, if that's what you're looking for. The third sentence in my post was
Please don't take offense to this cause I'm not here to insult anyone.
I never said that you're not entitled to your opinions or that you shouldn't share them. I encourage discussion. How else can we learn from one another?
Boxerma why didn't you respond to the questions/comments I raised regarding
Do you think maybe that they're crossing the street because their dog may be aggressive, and they want to avoid a confrontation?
You say
Excuse me for not knowing the name of the prong collars, one of my good friends uses them on her dogs. I don't judge her like you did me for not knowing what they are called like you did me, is this because you feel guilty using them.
Where in this quote do I judge you for not knowing what pinch collars are called?
BTW the choke collars with the pointy things are called pinch collar and they're (IMO) much better for dogs than choke collars.
Where is the insult? And no I don't feel guilty for using them. Why would I feel guilty for using something that's a better training tool than a choke chain? As amnesia said
Even though they look much more fierce, they are a better training tool since they 'equalize' the pressure across the entire neck (unlike a choker. In fact, these are highly suggested by both obediance centers in my area (for all types of dogs).
If you're referring to where I suggest that you take your own advice, I meant that in regards to why people
white knuckle their leashes and cross the street for fear of Bingo attacking them I guess
If you don't talk to the owners of those dogs, how do know that they're crossing the street for fear of Bingo?
I don't care that you used the "idiot" word, I was merely pointing out the irony of saying you don't judge people, and then in the very next sentence you call people idiots. Don't you think that's ironic? Of course you can use the word, and of course there
ARE idiots that have, and will continue to, cross our paths. You'll also note that where I said
EVERYONE, me included, judges others.
I included myself in judging others.
Where you say
And I don't know where you got stabbing, punching, and the like. What is up with that?
What's up with that is my questioning your use of the word
ANY . You'll note that I said
I'm sure that's not what you meant.
Nowhere in my post do I make mention of my education.
It's good you can show your education by defining the terms I and many others have used here to express our utter disbelief in situations. If that is how you like to try and degrade people
You don't know if I'm a Phd. or an elementary school drop out. I defined what
I mean when I use the words ignorant and stupid. Where in
No matter where you go in life you are going to run into people that are rude, and either ignorant (defined as having not been taught yet), stupid (defined as unable to learn), or both (defined as unable to learn no matter how much they're taught).
am I degrading anyone other than ignorant and stupid people? Or do you include yourself among them? I certainly didn't say that, nor did I imply it. If you read that into it, that's not my problem, it's yours.
Lastly, I have no doubt that you love your dog, but IMO until someone is a parent they don't really know their full capacity to love. That's just my opinion, but I bet if we put a poll on this board, for parents only, that asked the question If you could only save one, which would you save from a burning house your dog or your child? the answer would come back your child. Which is why I say there is no comparison between the pride I feel in my dogs and that which if feel for my son. If you're a parent you know that's true, if someday you become a parent you'll find out that it's true, and if you never become a parent you'll never know.
Again I say lighten up.