To breed or not to breed

[xenaprincess]

I don't know this for sure, but is it legal for a breeder to obligate you to a breeding contract knowing that your male has a defective immune system?? I wouldn't think so, and because of Docs demodex, I think that would make the contract void? How irresponsible is this breeder??? :mad:
I would neuter Doc immediately and solve the whole thing that way. How are you going to feel if you allow him to breed knowing that he is passing on his deficiency to the pups? Do the wise thing. Good luck to you.

 

[JulieM]

Be careful - if you neuter Doc, you're going to be in breach of contract and there can be (sometimes expensive) legal consequences of that. I agree that he shouldn't be bred, but you don't want a legal battle and perhaps being made to pay restitution for the puppies he could have sired.

Talk to the vet, get a statement that he is unsuitable for breeding, and present that to the breeder. Tell them you're not comfortable with breeding him because of his brother's problems and the fact that several puppies in the litter came down with generalized mange (it was generalized for all of them, wasn't it?). Pyloric stenosis is thought to have a genetic component, as well, which is another argument against breeding him.

Does the contract discuss health for breeding at all?

 

[swooley]

Does the contract discuss health for breeding at all?

Unfortunately, the contract says not much more than the breeder gets the first pick. And although, there were 4 other puppies with generalized demodex and 3 that were not generalised (that I know of), the breeder is telling me that the gene came from the sire and she only owns the bitch so the issue is null.

Regardless, I am not comfortable breeding either boy because of Wyatt's health problems. And if legalities will not allow me to neuter him, then all bets are off when it comes to breeding because all health issues will be disclosed to ALL prospects. That has been enough to scare off two potential breeders. I am a firm believer that if you plan on breeding, you do so with the intention to better the breed.

 

[boxerxbabe]

Good for you and might I add smart of you to think of telling the people of his problems

 

[Romeo'sMama]

Any "breeder" that insists on breeding a dog that has come from a litter with serious health problems is just out for money instead of the welfare of those puppies. Do not breed!!

 

[SandyHG55654]

This whole thing scares the hell out of me because we have been looking for a good breeder who does testing and it's been hard to find. The fact that there are dogs with issues like this and breeders who don't care and want to continue their line knowing full well these dogs will not be bettering the breed completly disgusts me! They are not just breeding inferior dogs they are breeding diseased dogs! This is making me evaluate even looking for a puppy! At least you realize you shouldn't breed your dog, but that's not really a fail safe only neutering is! If it was me I would do everything in my power to break your contract legally to this person. I wonder if you talked to your local humane society if they could document the fact that this dog should not be bred because of spreading disease in order to break your contract? Hope you work it out for all the unborn puppies sakes!

 

[kassa]

One solution is to offer the price of one puppy in your area to satisfy the conditions of the contract. Chances are she'll leap at it (though it's a shame to reward somebody so callous to living things as that). But it may get you free if you fear legal ramifications.

 

[BeanerSprout]

If the pup's brother and other littermates came down with health problems why breed him? I would talk to your vet and try to convince the breeders this is a very bad idea. Try to get him neutered. Good Luck!

 

[Dham]

I agree talk to the vet and get him to write up something to the point the dog is not a good canidate to breed.
This breeder makes me sick. She is just breeding with no conscious effort for good quality pups.