tower1 said:and as you know Julie there is only one breeder that is considered to have a pure american boxer line and that comes from a top organization.
Count me as somebody who doesn't know what you're talking about. There is no "pure American boxer line." They're all descended from the same handful of German imports in the 1930s.
Check the various pedigree databases and find a dog that doesn't pass through Bangaway, let alone Sirgurd, Dorian, Utz and Lustig. (And I'm keeping things historical -- there are certainly bottlenecks through certain dogs in the last 15 years that are nearly as pronounced).
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