possible osteosarcoma... please help

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sweetboxer

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I wish you lots of luck on Thursday. I've been thinking of you guys! I hope all goes well. I always get a second and sometimes third opinion if I am not sure about a diagnosis. It never hurts...let's hope they're right, it's not cancer and it's just some weird thing. Colby and Skye send Ginger lots of extra special wiggles and Cadence sends her healing love from above. lovicon
Keep us posted!
Nicole, Colby, and Skye
with love from our angel Cadence angelicon
 

Gin&Dex

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thanks!

I cannot thank all of you enough for your kind words and support through all this. Nicole, Chris, Elyse, Jan, Spud's mum... I know I'm forgetting some, but thank you so much.

The great news is that Ginger is feeling really well. She is happy, she plays every evening after she eats, and she fusses at me whenever she feels like it! For no reason at all, she'll just stare at me, then bark nonstop for 5 minutes or so, wagging her nub the whole time! (And Dexter gets in on it too, but he woo woo's--it can be very noisy!!) I wish I knew what she was saying!! She's probably telling me to stop worrying about her! :)

I'm trying my best!! You guys really are a great help. I would have already gone insane with worry if I hadn't joined Boxerworld. I cannot thank you enough, you are all in our hearts and in our prayers too!
 

sweetboxer

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This is what we're here for! I can't tell you how often I relied on this website when Cadence was sick. It just made me feel better talking to people who love their dogs as their children. I know that it's hard to wait, but we're here for you. Let it all out!!! Before you know it, you and Ginger and Dex will all be over this and will be having a wonderful time together, without worry! Give both your babies a kiss for me!
Nicole
 

Gin&Dex

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wow, two vets stumped!

Hi all... we just got back from our second opinion appointment. This vet is just a stumped about Ginger's x-rays as my vet is. But it was a very good appointment. We must have spent 45 minutes talking to the vet (and other patients were waiting--I felt kinda guilty), but he really wants to try to find out what this is. As I said earlier, I've used this guy before, and he is very thorough.

He said that from looking at the x-rays, it is really hard to say what it is. He said it does not look like osteosarcoma because it has crossed a joint. Just like my vet, he said he's NEVER seen it do that. He said the mass on the inside of the knee seems to be a soft tissue mass, not boney. So the bone issues could be secondary to the mass, or vice versa. We could be dealing with two things instead of one.

He reassured me that my vet had done everything right, and in the right order up to this point. He suggested we get a blood sample and send it off to a lab to look for some other things (fungal infections) that a CBC wouldn't pick up. So we're doing that... hoping for results on Monday or Tuesday. If it comes back showing infection, and it can be treated, we'll start treatment. If it comes back negative, he wants to do a biopsy of the mass (not the bone).

Long story short, this vet is really stumped too. He just cannot believe that nothing came back on the bone biopsy. So maybe it wasn't a "false negative" after all??? Please keep us in your prayers, and let's hope that something comes back in her bloodwork. I really wish we could find out what we're dealing with. The not knowing is killing me..... my thanks and hugs to you all.
 

Elyse

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Melanie, I am so sorry you didin't get any answers today. Just sending some more positive vibes to Ginger and lots of ((((HUGS)))) to all of you. Keeping our paws crossed that you get some answers from the blood work. Try to enjoy the weekend and relax. Please give Ginger a very sloppy kiss from Nestle and Porter and let us know what the results show.
 

sweetboxer

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Melanie,
I'm glad the news wasn't bad, although you're still left hanging. Let me tell you what I know about soft tissue masses, as that's what Cadence had. First of all, it's sometimes hard to find the "mother" mass. In Cadence's case, she had one in her nasal passage, one in her mouth, and some on her side. The one in her mouth was the one that caused damage to the bones in her jaw, which caused tooth damage as well. They could never quite determine which mass was the "mother" mass, as the oncologist called it. Also, fungal infections mimic cancer on xrays. They ruled out fungal with Cadence when the oncologist did the aspiration of her mass on her side. But don't give up on that--pursue that, b/c she even told me that what looks like cancer on an xray can sometimes be a fungal infection. Fungal infections come with their own set of issues, etc., but that's a heck of a lot better than cancer. My friend's mother had lung cancer and when they did a follow-up xray, they saw a shadow on her lung, so they went in to biopsy it figuring since she already had lung cancer once, this was just another spot. Turns out, when the surgeon got in there, it was a fungal infection. So don't think that it's cancer yet. Also, osteosarcoma does not cross bone planes. I read that over and over again. Soft tissue sarcomas are a "better" type of cancer to have, if a dog is going to have cancer. Our oncologist told us that, too. In Cadence's case, hers was so far advanced that her treatments couldn't keep up with it. But that's not how it always goes, so don't let our story discourage you if that is your final diagnosis. I know how frustrating this is for you, believe me I know. I am here for you no matter what. Stay strong...you and Ginger will get through this together.
As always, Skye and Colby send their world-famous wiggles! I send you a very big HUG!!!
Keep us posted on the lab results!
Nicole, Colby, and Skye
 

Gin&Dex

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another thing....

Before I went to the second vet today, I called to ask exactly when it was that we first went to the vet with the limp. They said it was March of 2004.... now, I'm no vet, but IF it was cancer, I would've thought that she'd be REALLY sick or gone by now, as they say it is really aggressive.

And she seems fine... so I am hopeful. Just a thought. The vet tech today didn't even believe she was 11 years old!

thanks to you all!
 

spud's mum

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Melanie, I'm so sorry you still haven't got to the bottom of what's going on. It must be so frustrating for you. It sounds like you've got an excellent vet on the case, though, so hopefully you'll know what you're dealing with soon. Will keep fingers crossed for good results from the blood test. Hang in there and give Ginger some big hugs and kisses from me and Spud.
 

Gin&Dex

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Well, the vet just called with Ginger's bloodwork results... everything came back negative for the fungal infection. So now he wants to biopsy the mass on her knee.

I feel sick. I hate to put her through another biopsy, but I hate not to. He said he could do it Friday morning.

I just feel so numb and upset that we can't seem to figure out what is going on. I just really feel sick...
 
I don't know how I missed this so I read everything...I'm sorry you are having to go through this..Bubba, Bella and myself are sending healing and healthy vibes to you and your baby..stay strong and we are with you..keep us posted..

Laura
 
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