I remember the discussion of our boxers who like to kick/push balls under couch. Ruby is pretty obnoxious about it. She will carry the ball over to the couch and then kicks it under the couch....then she sticks her nose under the couch and whines. I have to get up and get the ball from under the couch. WELL, we just purchased new living room furniture. The couch is too low and Ruby can no longer play that game. What ashame!!