Grimmja said:
"an ad to sell puppies in a newspaper means someone had a litter without alot of planning. They created more puppies for which they did not have homes lined up for at least somewhat in advance."
why does this have to be the case?
Because it is always the case. If a breeder had a waiting list and already had many good homes lined up, why would they then need to pay a newspaper to run an ad to say their puppies were available? Because they did not have homes lined up and because their puppies are available. No assumtions here. Could you tell my why a breeder would run such an ad if they had their puppies sold?
it seems to me a lot of people are ASSUMING the worst about the majority of people advertising in the paper. i've learned the lesson of assuming teh hard way several times...
And sometimes you just hear enough stories from hundreds and hundreds of people over time to realize "Hey, there just might be something to this assumption". Enough dogs turned into rescue for stupid reasons and you realize the breeder never screened the home correctly. Enough hysterical calls from sick puppy owners who can't get their breeder to return their phone calls or offer any words of advice. Wait until you get the call I had a few weeks ago. A 4 month old puppy with
no hip sockets!. Yes, I said it and it is true. It was a puppy back the stud owner sold in the newspaper. The buyers were innocent and did not know about health testing. The seller told them both parents were healthy and had Championship lines. They paid $750 for their "fancy" brindle. Now she drags herself all over. The seller is refusing to help, refusing to give them the breeder's phone #, refusing to hip test his male and basically telling them they are s.o.l.
No hip sockets - 4 months old - put that mental image in your head
if you're just the average wanna be a dog owner, then a healthy dog, a reasonable price, responsible owners. sound dispositions, great family additions CAN be found in the classifieds. and while i see your point against byb's, i would still advertise to go ahead with the classifieds as long as you're picky about who you choose.
This is where being an informed buyer comes in. And the entire purpose for most of my personal postings to this forum. But the majority of the people advertising in the newspaper are going to tell a puppy buyer whatever they want to hear to make a sale. Cute puppies sell well. BYB's know this. Sad cute puppies sell even quicker. BYB's know this. And they count on your heart overwhelming your brain. BYB's prey on the innocent and uninformed. And they are good at it.
also i remember hearing someone say humane societies are like a second chance for the dogs, well i think with the attitude against byb's, then buying a dog/puppy from the classifieds is like a second chance for them because they didn't choose to enter the world in "such irresponsible conditions." just a thought.
Sorry but it is a bad thought. Buying a puppy from an irresponsible breeder is NOT saving them. Do you honestly think the irresponsible breeder cares why you are buying their puppy? Heck no! You just gave them Ca-Ching! and the will simply breed another litter. They are irresponsible so you have to think like an irresponsible person to understand them better. By purchasing a puppy from an irresponsible breeder you are simply condoning and perpetuating a horrible problem.
if you're in it for the animals' lives, then why not? perfectly fine lives and great familiy additions can be found in teh classifieds.
If you are in it for the animals lives, then you would be looking at the big picture. And the big picture is filled with irresponsible breeders, pumping out puppies, supplimenting their income or simply having no clue, and putting more puppies into the world with little or no feeling of responsibility after those puppies leave. Sorry but I just can't support any type of irresponsible breeding and selling regardless of supposedly good intentions on the part of the breeder.
Let me say this. In my area, Boxers are very much overbred by irresponsible breeders. I say this not as an assumption but as a point of fact. Boxer Rescue is overflowing and we cannot pick up all the dogs that are being abandoned at shelters. The majority of times when we ask the owner who is dumping their dog where they got them from, they will say "an ad in the newspaper'. The reasons they are dumped can be very telling about how much of an interview they had with the breeder. Or, in most cases, the lack of an interview they had with the breeder. Breeders who disappear in a puff of smoke when Rescue tries to track them down to say one of their Boxers has been abandoned. So while I can clearly see both sides of the equation, that does not mean I will condone both sides. Only the Responsible side
Christina Ghimenti
PawPrint Boxers
Sunny Northern California
Boxer Champions and Loving Pets
