Are your skin kids messy?

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Coco'smommy

Boxer Insane
Do you find that your kids are messy/slobby and your not? I am basically married to "Monk" and this situation is causing us some issues. I try really hard to enforce the kids being clean & neat, picking up after themselves, cleaning up any mess they make, making sure their rooms are in order. I simply can't seem to keep up or get them to do what they need to. My husband is seriously having issues with us considering buying a new home because he feels they will just "ruin" it. I can't possibly be with them every single hour or minute of the day to make sure that they are not leaving a mess. I don't know if he's expecting too much or I'm too lax. I would love some input/suggestions/ideas. Anything would be greatly appreciated.
 
Coco'smommy said:
I am basically married to "Monk" and this situation is causing us some issues.

Oh dear. I can see how this would cause issues.

Kids are kids. And as much as we'd like them to be neat, MOST of them are not innately that way. It has to be taught. . .seems to me like you're doing your darndest to teach them. Kids will always take short-cuts. I always did as a teen. . .and now, with my own house, it's usually spotless(drives my dad crazy).

Your DH shouldn't let this keep you from getting a new home. Ruining it isn't what you'll do - you'll make it yours. Is he ashamed of the house you keep now? All things depreciate from the moment they are created: Cars, houses, even humans.

You do what you can - no house can be kept perfectly clean.
 

Elyse

Banned
I am very lucky that DH is as neat and clean as I am, or he would rather clean up than hear me nag nag nag him about it. Our son is only 17 months so it is kind of easy to train him but we make clean up a game in our house. I am sure he will grow up to be a terror (just to spite me) but I am enjoying it now. At school, the teach them to wipe up when they make spills so now Cole hangs out by the water bowl at home with a papertowel. :LOL:

I say bribe them to be clean and neat!!! Whatever it takes to keep your sanity.
 

spud's mum

Boxer Pal
I feel your pain! It took me a while to realise that kids=great big mess! I don't know how old your kids are, but I have two teenagers whose idea of tidying up is to move the pile of mess from one side of the room to the other!...and then begrudgingly! I hear myself nagnagnag all day. Eventually it sinks in that Mum is not happy, but it usually takes awhile! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! :mad:
I agree with Crystal on this one. As long as the house is clean and things get put away eventually...so be it. Kids grow so fast and I don't want to be remembered as a Mum who was always cleaning, nagging and not much fun to be around. ( I need to remind myself of that, now and again!)
I was a messy nightmare as a kid and now I have turned into my mother! So there's always hope! ;)
 

WYearta

Super Boxer
Baby Bella said:
The crumbs will still be there!!! :LOL:

Actually, sometimes in my house the crumbs "magically" disappear. (Thanks Boom!)
But, seriously, I agree with everything that's been said. I hope my kids think back and remember how much fun we had together-not necessarily that our house was spotless, b/c in the whole scheme of things, how important is that? My house isn't dirty and never will be, but if it's a little cluttered-well, that just gives it character!
However, if it actually bothers your husband so badly, maybe start small with a single chore for each child to do-with a reward afterward. That's what we do in our house, and they're SUPPOSED to clean their rooms every Saturday-sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't--and that's okay with me. I guess it really is a matter of personal preference-as far as I'm concerned as long as they don't have food/drinks rotting in their rooms, a few toys on the floor don't really bother me.
 

Coco'smommy

Boxer Insane
I want to thank you all for your responses. I don't consider our house dirty but it is cluttered and we definitely need to get that under control. I don't obsess over the cleanliness as much as my husband and it aggravates him. Over the years we have always rented and keep getting bigger houses as we go, in turn they are harder to keep clean. More space = more stuff and less time to get it clean. I checked out flylady.com and I think she has some great ideas and I am going to attempt to implement this into our house and get EVERYONE involved, even the DH. I have decided with hubby;s approval of course, to offer the kids an allowance at the end of the week to entice them to complete their part of the chores 100%. The first thing we're doing is the 27 fling boogie. You go through your home with a trash bag and pick 27 items to throw out, close the bag, no rescuing and get rid of it. That is a start to "decluttering". It may be helpful for me to go with the kids to their rooms and "help" to ensure they're getting stuff done & not spending the whole day trying to work on it. If I can get everyone into a routine then maybe this won't be such an issue. This way it's just a little bit of time each day, the house stays in order and we can still have the quality time that we need. I work FT and then some so time is limited anyway.
 

ladyluck_t

Boxer Insane
You also might want to try some the positive re-inforcement training that is used with dogs (modified for people of course :D not sure if your kids would do anything for a small piece of dried liver :LOL: ) I would recommend that you read "Don't Shoot the Dog" book by Karen Pryor. She extrapolates the training terminology to include canine, feline, and human!
Also, what my teenage messy boy taught me, is that work=reward. If they are old enough, sit down with them and talk about what a paycheck really is and what work is. Then show them their new chore list or get them to work out one with you and say you are hiring them to do these chores, put a price on all chores, and dont forget a timeline to get the chore done. Then a check off sheet for the chores completed. This should not only get them involved in the "Business" of family, but it has the added benefit of teaching them good work ethics for their future. Gosh I just love the "two-fers" (i.e. two lessons for the price of one!)

Another tip, is add a few chores that would be nice if they did, but arent a part of their "job" (i.e. "overtime") I did this with my son, I added a few things, put their price per item, frequency of work. He sat down and work out the numbers ( :D made his momma proud there) and found out if he did all the "overtime" along with his "work" he would double his monthly income! :eek: talk about seeing dollar signs. He was the one that made me type up a check-off sheet so he could be sure I didnt forget anything. Also, if he didnt do an assigned job, well that money was deducted from the "salary" .
 
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bunkermom

Boxer Insane
Daycare taught my son to be clean! I am a stay at home mom now, but a year ago I was working. My kids are ages 6 and 3 and are pretty good about picking up. My 3 yr old sings a song: "Clean up, clean up, everybody do your share, Clean up, clean up, everybody do your share!" I love to hear him sing it while he picks up toys and stuff!!

I also make chores fun. They love to dust with the 'magic dusting wand', which is actually a Swiffer dusting wand! They also love to jump in the tub and clean the shower walls...I put a little cool water in the tub (about up to their ankles) and spray a little cleaner and let them go to town with their sponges. They end up splashing and having a blast! My kitchen vaccuum handle also slides down so it is the right height for a kid, and they think it is great to vaccuum...of course we have to crate the dog or she will attack the sweeper!

After we are done with our chores, we usually have a treat. Ice cream, candy, whatever...even if it is 10 am! We deserve to be rewarded for our hard work! They also get an allowance for helping.

I have also taught my children (since they were able) that they take their own dishes and cups to the sink after meals. It is a rule in our house. They also have a Spider-man laudry hamper in their room for their dirty clothes and I never have any trouble.

Good Luck, if the kids think it is fun and get a reward (monetary or otherwise) they will be much more willing to help. Of course, you must always set the example... :)

Autumn
 

jaimie

Boxer Insane
We have a motto in my house that we follow. Our house is not spic n span but we try to keep it picked up and deep clean once a month. Mind you I have 4 kids ages 10, 8, 5, 2. So it feels like I am constantly nagging at them to do something. Eventually I get throught to them, like I said EVENTUALLY. But I have always said this, from the minute I had a child.

You can never have a perfect house with perfect kids.

It doesn't matter how hard you try it just doesn't help! We built our new house because we grew out of our old one. We had a 3 bedroom 1500 sq ft ranch with 4 kids & 2 boxers in it (before we got Zeus). It is wrong for your hubby to base how clean your current house is on getting a new house. Good Luck, I hope things get better!
 

Lovely Rita

Boxer Booster
No offense, but I don't think its very reasonable to expect a gleaming clean house when you have kids. I mean, us kids mean well, but we don't understand why tidiness is so important to you :D!

Seriously, I'm turning 16 in september and when I was little I could never understand why adults cared about tidiness so much. As I got older (around 10--12) I understood how much better it felt to have a tidy room, and I would clean it up myself every once in a while. Even then I was very aware of my surroundings and the way things looked, and I realized that I always felt more relaxed and comfortable when things looked good. Obviously the occasional fort making and silly-string fights and sudden creative inspirations which involved a certain amount of permanent glitter paints and a number of sadly ignored newspaper work areas are normal, but I think it's best to not sweat the small stuff.

I think a big thing is that many parents are very negative about messiness. Like, parents will complain about messy places and messy rooms, but do your kids really know why it bothers you so much? Have you ever told them? Going into a room and saying "Oh god, why must my house be such a mess?" does not exactly make your kid feel very enthusiastic, or very happy. Maybe you should try talking about how nice it feels to have a clean room, rather than how terrible it feels to have a messy room?

I seem to remember getting really annoyed when my parents asked me to clean up, because I considered myself to be a very clean little girl and I thought it was unfair of them to ignore all the good work I had done, just because my room was messy TODAY, when it had been perfectly clean LAST WEEK. I think I would have liked it if my parents had said something along the lines of: "I know how good you usually are about cleaning up, but today company is coming over and I would like the house to look really nice. Work your magic and get your room looking as sparkly as it usually does!" it may be a little unrealistic, but I always said to myself, "If they were just a little nicer about it, I wouldn't be so upset!!". After a while, they started doing that sort of thing, and while hormones and such still take advantage of me a little bit, I am usually much more cheerful about cleaning up.

Another note, having a pretty bedroom helps as well. We were pretty poor back then, but I remember that the first thing my parents did when we moved into our apartment was paint my room pink and glue huge life sized cut-outs of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs on my walls. They painted my (second hand) bed white, I had a brand new duvet cover (purple flowers), and I got a mosquito net (for decoration) for my birthday. I thought that my room looked like a princesses palace, and it ruined the effect to have clothes lying all over the place.

This trick still works on me now. The first thing we did when we moved into our new house was paint my room dark blue, rip up the old carpet (hardwood underneath, yay!) buy a (brand new!) black iron bed, new duvet cover (blue with gold spirals), a pretty chair (blue), pretty curtains that drag on the floor and an antique mahogany desk with matching chair. I absolutely HATE having my room messy. I am now tidier than my father, and that is saying something.

Just a side note, ALLOWANCES HELP A LOT. TRUST ME.

So yeah, I don't pretend to be Dr. Phil or anything, but I always think that a little perspective of someone who is still quite close to childhood helps parents, just a little bit. It would help me if I got some perspective as to what the heck adults are thinking!! :D
 
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