Withhold water dish?

[TyBeam]

The minute Tyson wakes up in the morning, I take him outside, after a nap we go outside, after he gets done eating, we go outside, after a few minutes of rough housing, we go outside, every time theres a silent pause in his daily activities , we go out side and everytime in between , we go outside. It ends up being every twenty minutes to a half hour that I am taking him out. Every time we go out I let him burn around the yard, chase leaves what ever he wants to do. I give him plenty of time to do his business.

He's very good about going out. I always say "Tyson lets go out side to go potty" He runs for the door. After he does his thing, I always praise him and tell him "Good Boy, you go potty outside!" in that silly sing songy voice we all do, and he gets a treat, he gets all wiggly and he's so happy that I am pleased.

Then those times in between the in between times, he STILL ends up going potty in the house. Most always its by the back door which is forgivable. What I'm finding hard to forgive is the times when he's walking through the living room and I just happen to look at him and I realize he has that "I know I'm doing wrong" look on his face and he's actually peeing while walking. Theres just this trail of pee going all over the carpet! And he knows he's wrong! You can see it in his eyes.

He makes several trips to his water dish during the day because he plays extremely hard with Beamer all day long. I understand that sometimes its just such a drag to leave all that fun behind just to go out and make mom happy. Would it be wrong of me to put his water dish up and only set it down when he really asks for it during the day?

OK, for example, during the time I wrote the above, I took Tyson out so he could go potty, he went, just now my daughter just yelled in and told me that peed again by the back door!!!! :mad:

So his water dish, can I withhold that some during the day??

Thanks in advance

 

[kacee]

I had the same problem with mine. She would usually tell us she had to go, but sometimes she would whine at the door only a few minutes after she just went, so we would think, NO WAY she has to pee, she just wants out then she would pee in the house .Now I put only an inch or so of water in her dish at a time and put it up after about 8 pm. My other dogs could always have unlimited water put down and they would only drink what they needed, but this puppy is like a water buffalo, she slops it all down! She has only an occasional accident now (at 9 months).

 

[kacee]

You have checked to make sure he doesn't have a bladder infection? I have had that problem with older dogs in the past.

 

[Gruntsmom]

We had a bit of that problem when Grunt was about 6 months old, and I know THAT LOOK oh so well. It was so frustrating because like you, he was being taken out A LOT!! We started putting about an inch of water in the bowl, as he is a guzzler, too, and taking his bowl up for the night an hour before he goes to bed. It has been about 4 months since his last "peeing while walking across the living room carpet" episode. Know what you're going through. And hope maybe a closer watch on water intake will help the situation.
Gruntsmom

 

[Shadowboxer]

Just a thought. You say you take him out frequently, which is excellent. But does he have a specific place to toilet, or does he simply go wherever he wants to in the yard? My thought is that when you say he goes out, has a run around, and is given plenty of time to do what he needs to do, is he differentiating between toilet breaks and playing in the yard? It might help if you could create a "toilet area" and take him right to this and praise him when he does what is required and then take him inside. He may be sort of thinking 'well, what is the difference between playing outside and peeing, and playing inside and peeing'.

Also, as he is peeing by the door it sounds as though he doesn't know how to let you know that he wants out. Perhaps you could train him to ring a bell attached to the door?

I would also get him checked just in case there is a UTI lurking.

If he is fed dry food I would be very reluctant to ration his water intake as this could result in kidney problems.

 

[craZ4HERKIE]

When we were housebreaking Herkie we would take him out on the leash...he would let us know he needed to go out by coming to us then going directly to the door.I always used the leash so he could designate between potty time & play time.We would walk around the yard and I would say "let's make peepee" or "let's go poop" and whenever he would do his business I would always praise him, we also had puppypads by the door in case of his accidents, in which I would immediately plop him on the pad & say peepee here.We never scolded him.There were 2 occasions when I was still asleep & the skinkid didn't take him out & he didn't wake me up, and he pooped by the door, after he did that he barked & barked at the poop until someone came to see what was wrong!(he was still a pup) He knew it wasn't supposed to be there....so eventually he'll get the idea!Also I would definitely have him checked by the vet to ensure there aren't any infections.And I don't think I would withhold his water until after a certain time at night.Good luck!

Jessica, Herkie & kuma

 

[Chicagosarah]

Do you have a doggy door? I think they are priceless!!!
If you dont like them, Maybe you could get a bell to hang by the backdoor that he can touch so you can hear it when he has to go potty

 

[Thomas Liggin]

We haven't experienced the peeing while walking thing, as a puppy, but everything else sounds familiar.

You don't mention Tyson's age, but it sounds like you are housetraining a puppy. If so, puppies don't have much patience after going to the "bathroom door."

I wonder if it is possible you are taking him out too often. In other words, he is being trained to pee every 15 or twenty minutes.

I know the rule of thumb is to take them out frequently in the beginning until they get the idea that outside is the place to go.

As has been mentioned, a urinary tract infection can cause well trained adult dogs to have accidents. But barring that, I'd play with the puppy in the house, and when Tyson seems to lose interest in play and becomes "distracted", I'd take him out.

Males may sometimes "mark" their residence by walking, and leaving a trail of urine. Indy went through this phase when he was over a year old, and had been housebroken for months.

He wasn't relieving himself, since it was only a slight sprinkle of urine. It just seemed he had to "mark" that room.

He did it primarily in a spare room, sporadically over a period of a few weeks.

Ava seemed to be housebroken at an early age, but lapsed and had a few accidents. Most of the time she would whine to be let out, but occasionally, she would just squat and go without warning.

Then, it was as though someone had thrown a switch, and all the foolishness stopped. As I think about it, that has been our experience with most dogs. They know what is expected, but it takes a few weeks from the time they seem to learn, until they are totally housetrained.

Barring a UTI, you'll probably find that it will happen with Tyson. He'll go a few days without an accident, but you won't be confident that it has finally happened, so you'll be expecting to find a puddle somewhere. But, the few days will stretch into a week then a month, and it will hit you that Tyson has become dependable.


Tom

 

[Shotze's Mom]

Shotze is a water buffalo as well. If I fill her bowl up, she will drink it all. So what I do is give her a full bowl in the morning with breakfast...then half a bowl at lunch...and in the evening I just give her a small amount. None after 6pm. She also will go peepee outside and then when Im not expecting it she will squat in the house and gimme that "oh no" look. When she does peepee in the house its just a dribble. Im taking her next week to get her tail docked because the breeder didnt have it done(they like natural boxers). Im going to ask if she could have a posible UTI or bladder infection at this time.

 

[Thomas Liggin]

I must have been half asleep when I first read your post. I missed the question about taking up the water bowl.

I wouldn't. A dog, and puppies especially should have access to fresh water at all times. Some would recommend taking up the water in the evening to help ensure that they can hold it through the night.

There can be problems when dogs take in large quantities of water to "rehydrate" themselves rather than consuming smaller quantities more frequently.

Everything I have read says that dogs should always have a supply of fresh cool water available. There may be exceptions when for medical reasons water is withheld.


Tom