Testing non breeding dog?

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MinPin2Boxer

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Maybe a silly question, and I hope I'm not asking one that's already been answered.(tried searches) But would it be stupid to do some of the tests done on breeding dogs on a non breeding dog? I've been reading on here about the different tests done for Boxers before breeding. I have a 3 year old fixed male and with the different problems Boxers face I didn't know if doing any of the tests would help prevent or prepare for anything in his future. Is that silly? Both of my Miniature Pinschers parents had the tests done for their breed and where fine(still understand something could come up). But Simba my Boxer is a rescue and as far as I can tell not from a good breeder (ACA registered and unable to get any answers from them if they did any testing). He seems healthy as of now but like stated other times by others that doesn't mean much. So would I be wasting money doing the tests? And if I should do any of them which ones? Thanks for any help you can give!

April
 

Draymia

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Yes, it would be a great idea. There are lots that can be done, if for some reason your boy does have some problems. The research that has been done has been a great help to improve the lives of affected boxers.

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carole

Boxer Insane
I got Star heart tested and she is not being used for breeding. Its more for peace of mind.

Our breed club does testing at a reduced price.
 

kassa

Boxer Insane
Heart testing can tip you off to serious conditions that you can attempt to treat with medication. That would be a Doppler echocardiogram to detect flow rate problems (especially if the dog has a murmur). Some heart conditions are relatively benign for the individual -- things that would prevent you from breeding that individual animal, but are unlikely to require medication or shorten or alter the dog's natural life in any way (mild aortic stenosis). Others may not require treatment now but would bear watching year to year to see if they progress and start causing problems.

If the dog has arrhythmias (detected on a 24 hour electrocardiogram, also called a Holter monitor) there are medications that will reduce the number of arrhythmias (and fainting spells if the dog starts having them) but there's no real evidence that they prolong life. Absence of arrhythmias on the test DOES NOT mean that the dog is clear, but the test will often pick up really bad cases, and then you might consider medication and have something of an expectation that the dog might not live to old age.

Thyroid conditions are quite common in boxers, so a thyroid panel could tip you off early to very treatable conditions.

Hip testing could alert you to potential problems in the future with arthritis and should certainly be done if your dog is quite active, especially in agility or jumping or jogging -- a dog with bad hips who engages in intense exercise can be creating further injury down the road.

In short, it's up to you. Breeders use the tests to weed out the worst cases before they pass on the conditions to the next generation. Ignorance isn't a luxury the ethical can afford.

If you're not breeding your dog, much will depend on why you want the information. Are you the type who will obsess over a "not so good" report that won't necessarily (but might possibly) shorten your dog's lifespan? Or would you rather know sooner than later that there's the possibility of a bad outcome?

If the dog has a murmur I'd definitely do the echo, because there are medications that prolong life and prevent other complications from certain structural disorders. I might do the Holter if I was curious, but you have to understand that there's no clean bill of health from it. The only reliable information you can get is bad -- that the dog has an extremely bad electrical system in his heart. A good report just means that it didn't detect any that particular day.
 

MinPin2Boxer

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Thank you for all your replies. They have been very helpful! I am going to make an appointment with my vet after the holidays to discuss the different tests and if they can do it there or if I need to go somewhere else. I do know she'll have to do an xray on Simbas back left leg. He's been limping off and on for a month but on other visits to vet she just gave meds that he couldn't take because they made him sick. So this time I'm going to insist on an xray since it's been getting worse specially with the cold weather. I've even noticed his right thigh muscle is bigger than his left from him not using his left very much. So hopefully it's not anything major, but even if it is we will get thru it and get him the best care around. Thanks again for the help!

April
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