Poll Spay and Neuter all pets that are rescued? I understand that policy...but....

[Bumblebee]

Zsara- Congradulations on getting Blade neutered.

I just wanted to add really quickly, that it would be a double standard for rescues to allow people with intact pets to adopt. We work so hard to help boxers and constantly have more coming in. We are trying to educate people about being responsible pet owners and about spaying/neutering. If we then allow someone to adopt with an intact animal, that would go against everything we stand for.

We do rescue for the BOXERS, not the people.

 

[ivarious]

Re: Re: Ok You said a vet who doesn't use ACE....

Originally posted by Aimee


Acepromazine is one of the most commonly used tranquilizers in veterinary medicine. It is used for tranquilization, sedation, and motion sickness, etc. Acepromazine is often used as a preanesthetic agent. In the boxer, it tends to cause a problem called first degree heart block, a potentially serious arrhythmia of the heart. It also causes a profound hypotension (severe lowering of the blood pressure) in many boxers that are given the drug. Reactions in boxers have included collapse, respiratory arrest, and profound bradycardia (slow heart rate, less than 60 beats per minute). Acepromazine should not be used in dogs of the boxer breed because of a breed related sensitivity to the drug.

Hrm... what other alternatives to Acepromazine are there? I've given Sierra acepromazine before flying and she was fine (other than scared.) I'm curious though, if there are as equally effective alternatives I'll ask for them next time I bring Sierra with me somewhere..

 

[Capone's Mama]

A unneutered male will find a way to get to a dog in heat and that could mean it getting hit by a car or in a dog fight over the female. It is safer in the long run to get all pets neutered

 

[Sube Ru's mom]

I think one thing people need to keep in mind when it comes to rescue. We are concerned about the dog not the owner. Our primary and ONLY concern is placing one of OUR dogs into a loving, settled and responsible home.

Rescues look at homes where a dog is not neuter/spayed "just because" as "irresponsible (sorry)" and not a home where we want to place our dog. We have strong beliefs and convictions and the home we place a dog in should be a home that supports and honors these convictions.

And for someone to say that

Originally posted by ivarious
YES, I love a good argument. I mean, heated discussion.

You should really reconsider wether the Rescue organization you are dealing with is doing the honorable thing. If you beleive you can provide a good home, but have reasons for not spaying/neutering your existing dog then explain them. Rescue/Adoption organization workers aren't automatically angels (though most are ) and might be stubbornly driven by politics or personal feelings, and not what's right.

Kind of makes me upset :( We, rescues, dont deal with politics and we sure dont get paid buy politicans haha. Our personal feelings though do matter and how we base whether one of OUR dogs should go to a home. Like breeders, rescues take a lot of pride in the dogs that we have. They are second children to us. We spend a GOOD amount of time working with these dogs and building their confidence and try to get them over their emotional issues so they will be ready to have a good quality of life.
*NOT SAYING PEOPLE WHOSE DOGS ARE NOT SPAYED/NEUTERED DO NOT FEEL THIS WAY

 

[Bumblebee]

Sube Ru's Mom,

You expressed exactly what I was trying to say, but so much better.

Thank you.

 

[Boxer_21]

Originally posted by Sube Ru's mom
Why would someone have an intact male or female? what good benefical reason is there? there is not one. It is about the cosmetics/look of the dog. And that is being irresponsible-for lack of better term. If there is no intention of breeding the dog, or showing the dog then you are tempting fate by not having the dog fixed.

I agree with that. There is no good reason for dogs (not show dogs or "resonably bred") not to be spayed or neutered. Which is why I also support neutering and spaying. Every animal I own has been altered as soon as he/she is old enough. Well, I can't say all because my two male beta fish are still intact. Sorry, but I had to say that!! :D

Thousands of dogs get put to sleep a year because people did not want to spay or neuter their dog- this is needless and irresponsible.

One last thing I'd like to say. Out of the thousands of dogs that you're referring to, some could come from the "responsible" breeders that you praise. Please understand that I'm NOT blaming the breeder, but they can't be assured that EVERY dog they produce will enter and stay in loving homes for their whole lives. They may have the buyer sign contracts, but that doesn't neccisarily mean the buyer will do what he signed on to 4 years down the road when he decides to give him up. So I hate to say it like this, but even the most reputable breeders could be helping to create pups that end up in shelters at one point or another, through no fault of their own mind you. The thought that I could create puppies who could potentially end up in shelters, is enough to make me say that I'm 99.99999% sure that I'll never become a breeder.

* i also am not trying to start an argument but when rescues get questioned about their beliefs (also lack of better word) then it stirs my blood

:D :D

That is completely understandable!! I applaud everyone that works in the rescue area. I watch that Animal Presinct show every week and to see those innocent animals being abused, neglected, and/or dumped off at shelters breaks me heart!! They did not ask to be born and they did not chose their owners, they just have to hope to end up in loving homes. It's a lot of hard work physically and emotional to work in rescue, but still I hope to one day join in on it. I would love to help animals in need.Who knows, maybe once I get a behind the scenes look at it, maybe the word irresponsible will be a good fit for those people who chose not to alter.

 

[Aimee]

Just to clarify the statistics, there are millions of animals put to death in shelters yearly. The statistics are profound!

 

[Sube Ru's mom]

Originally posted by Aimee
Just to clarify the statistics, there are millions of animals put to death in shelters yearly. The statistics are profound!

You are absolutly Correct!!! i was not thinking!! SORRY!!

 

[Peggy G]

Originally posted by Aimee
Just to clarify the statistics, there are millions of animals put to death in shelters yearly. The statistics are profound!

I have copied & pasted this from a shelter web site. Kind of puts that horrifing number in perspective.

The reality in America is that if each of us were to take the number of dogs
home that we would need to adopt to solve the problem of overpopulation - we
would EACH have to adopt SEVEN (7) dogs...that would mean a family of 5
would own 35 dogs! Please do not blame the shelter staff for this as many
times there is no choice - it is just a reality of the numbers, and a
reminder for us to pass on the message of spaying or neutering our pets to
solve the problem of unwanted litters of dogs.

 

[rajaboxer]

That's not true at all.

I personally know reputable breeders in my area who RUN the local rescue. They have their rescues spayed/neutered, and they still breed for the betterment. I think you might want to check your sources before making such a blanket statement.