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[MommyD.]

options

It seems to me that there are many options that would be helpful in getting this puppy that you want so bad. In my opinion, I don't want to make anyone angry by any means, but it seems that you don't want to even explore these other options: doggie daycare, a pet sitter, someone to come in your garage a few times a day, etc. We were also turned down by a breeder that was having pups later this year. It was the first breeder that we contacted and she was reluctant to sell to us because we had small children. I was glad that she was honest with me and I was glad to know she cared so much about her puppies. I was also upset and angry and wanted to give up. Then we were messed over by another breeder and finally, we found one, that wasn't the greatest, but I have my puppy. He is healthy and I hope he stays that way. I didn't give up...I got my puppy. I was also open to any and all suggestions that everyone offered me. I don't think it's a matter of quitting your job. Everyone has priorities. I could not be a breeder and sell a puppy to anyone. I have no intentions of ever breeding. I could probably never sell a puppy. I would be too hard on the new owners, I know. But, if I did I would not want to sit around and wonder if I made the best choice for that puppy. Thinking that it could be abused, starved, etc... I could not do that. I know it's a hard job for breeders. I'm sure you would provide a good home and maybe if you explore these options, then you will have your puppy in no time.

 

[Peggy G]

Originally posted by johnson99
What makes it even MORE difficult is that several of the rescue applications I have looked at ask how long both adults will be out of the house and I have even had a rescue contact person tell me they would be reluctant to adopt out a rescue dog (even an older one) out to a home where the owners would be out of the house for 9-10 hours a day.

Very frustrating.

Hopefully, thats just a general question on the app. and doesnt mean they wont adopt out to the perfect family just because they both work full time?? If you are interested in adopting an adult dog please ask them to come and do a home study. This will give them the opportunity to meet you and see that you can offer a rescue a loving forever home. By adopting an adult dog you dont have to worry about all those puppy stages/issues and I bet it will feel very rewarding to know that you are giving a dog a second chance in life.

It is frustrating but it's a good thing (if you think about it) that it's not so easy to get a dog. When it's easy people dont put enough forethought into it. Then many of those dogs (purchased on a whim) end up as give aways and believe me the shelters & newspapers are full of those. I'm not AT ALL suggesting that you havent put thought into this. I have read your previous threads and know you have done more homework than most. I know the perfect dog is out there for you. Don't lose heart.

 

[Aimee]

Originally posted by Peggy G


Hopefully, thats just a general question on the app. and doesnt mean they wont adopt out to the perfect family just because they both work full time?? If you are interested in adopting an adult dog please ask them to come and do a home study. This will give them the opportunity to meet you and see that you can offer a rescue a loving forever home.

In my previous post, this is what I was talking about and what angered me to no end. Everything is placed on an application for a reason. There are many rescues who won't adopt a dog out to a family who is gone 10 hours a day. We recently had this arguement in a nonboxer rescue I volunteer for. I had a foster who was hit and killed by a car because he was adopted out to a family who had no fence. Having a fence is not a RULE because of this now, but because none of our board members work full time, they think that dogs cannot be loved and well cared for in a home where a person is out of the house 10 hours a day. BUT they didn't yank a foster out of my home when I moved and began commuting to work and was out of the house for 11 hours a day. Which brings me to my point, I don't believe that puppies should be left alone for 10 hours a day but a grown dog does not find this as difficult IF you are committed to an exercise routine and spend quality time with them. I once had an adopter interested in a certain dog but because she worked 10 hour days they didn't approve her for the dog she was interested in but did end up pawning off a dog that was male aggressive and had been in rescue for months since she was single. So it's okay for this dog to be left alone for that long because he wasn't the perfect pup so to speak? Rescues make up their own rules and they aren't all the same...it's best to contact them directly and have the homecheck done like Peggy said. I have a much better understanding of an adopter after a homecheck than I do just by reading their application. Good luck.

 

[kahlua]

I am out of the house for almost 11 hours out of the day. I am lucky that my husband works very close to home and can go home at lunch and let our puppy out and spend some time with her. He is only out of the house for about 7 hours a day. But, if it were to come down to it and he had to change jobs, I think Kahlua would be fine being left alone all that time. I am just happy to know she has a good home, is well fed and very happy. I spend all my time at home with her, take her everywhere i can and love her as much as possible. I can understand why a breeder might not want to give a pup to just anyone, they have the fortune to be discriminating. As for shelters and rescues, I am suprised to hear they turn down perfectly good parents because they do what most people in this society do - work! I would think the dog would be happier spending nine hours in a crate or eventually with free roam to a house than spending 24 hours in a cage in a place where diseases and general depression of animals is high or even being euthanized. Just like with skin kids, we don't want to have to put them in daycare but we do and they survive and end up happy socialized people. We rescued a dog when I was a child who was alone for many hours in the day, with no one to come home and let her out at lunch and she lived a happy and healthy 15 years. I think letting these parents adopt is a lot better than the alternative.

 

[PawPrintBoxers]

Shelters

Originally posted by kahlua
As for shelters and rescues, I am suprised to hear they turn down perfectly good parents because they do what most people in this society do - work!

I am sure that is not a firm statement from every single shelter or rescue.

But what if that same Boxer was dumped by the owner citing: "We both work and don't have the time to spend him." An applicant comes along with both sides working and refusing to even entertain the idea of someone coming home at lunch to care for the dog, hiring a dog walker, or even using an occasional doggy day care? Granted, many people (myself included) work and have Boxers. But if an uncaring person dumped their dog into a Rescue for this one reason, that Rescue would think twice about adopting the poor baby right into the same situation. Here is where a true Boxer lover will rise to the occasion and be willing to discuss a situation in the overall best interests of the dog.

I repeat: The #1 reason dogs are dumped into Rescues:
"I don't have the time to spend with the dog".

 

[kcarter]

boy this topic has really got alot of people going. It seems to be breeders vs pet owners. I have startd my puppy search severals mnths b4 my intended purchase so i don't thnk i am one of those rushing in to the puppy choice. i do plan on staying home with the puppy and then taking her everywhere with me. I do howevere in my over a decade dealing with boxer clubs find breeders and people who show their boxers really look down on people who just want a boxer as a pet. As a result i think they makeit very difficult for the average boxer lover to get a dog. i did apply for rescue boxer and their guidelines are just as difficult to meet(ie must have fenced in yard, must be home most of the day, chidren over 6, must have another dog for comanionship)

GOOD LUCK TO ALL THOSE LOOKING FOR A BOXER AS JUST A PET, COMPANION AND FRIEND)

 

[PawPrintBoxers]

Originally posted by kcarter
I do howevere in my over a decade dealing with boxer clubs find breeders and people who show their boxers really look down on people who just want a boxer as a pet. As a result i think they makeit very difficult for the average boxer lover to get a dog

I honestly find that sad to have been your personal experience and am glad it was never my own experience. My show Boxers are my pets first and always will be. The fact I had to pass the scrutiny of other breeders when I was looking only spoke highly of them. My Boxers are my pets. That is why I dress them up funny for Halloween, take them to nursing homes (working on TDI), put ATTS and CGC titles on them, and generally live my life with them. There is not such thing as "just a pet" and to anyone thinks so I must ask you to think a bit higher of our beloved pets. They are wonderful!

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[Debbie Magon]

Originally posted by kcarter
boy this topic has really got alot of people going. It seems to be breeders vs pet owners. I do howevere in my over a decade dealing with boxer clubs find breeders and people who show their boxers really look down on people who just want a boxer as a pet. As a result i think they makeit very difficult for the average boxer lover to get a dog.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL THOSE LOOKING FOR A BOXER AS JUST A PET, COMPANION AND FRIEND)

I am very sorry you feel this way because it is totally unfounded for the majoritory of breeders in my country and I am quite sure , yours also.

Firstly to all the people who own a pet boxer, you make up approximately 99% of boxer owners.

Very few boxers are shown and probably a large percent of these end up as couch potatoes.

I feel pet owners who have never bred a litter and dealt with the realities of just how hard it actually is , can not begin to understand it from a breeders point of view.

Does the average pet owner invest thousands of dollars into their dogs in research, etc ?
Pay enormous vet bills for tests , C sections, puppy aid etc?
Sit up night after night with motherdogs , and pups and never get any sleep?
Travel miles for studs investing a LOT of money for many times nothing!
Etc, etc, etc. I could go on here for ever the list of what GOOD breeders will do to produce top quality pups is HUGE!

Once a person has invested this type of time , money and yes SOUL into their dogs, of course they wont settle for anything other than the very best homes possible for those little pups!

To most breeders, the best homes have got little or nothing to do with wether the new owners will show the boxer or not.

Like many people have stated on this board, you only need to look into the animal shelters to see the end results of BYB and unlucky desicions on behalf of good breeders.

If it wasnt for the good breeders investing literally their souls into their breeding programmes , the puppy buyer would not be able to get boxers of good quality and temperament.

How can anyone judge what WE should do with our stock?

 

[Justin Li]

Originally posted by Debbie Magon



How can anyone judge what WE should do with our stock?

That is exactly how I feel as a pet owner feels when I get rejected on an application for a rescue or a foster, especially when I'm intersested in adopting a little puppy. If the potential owner feels confident and is sure what they want to do, again how is a breeder or rescue club going to judge whether they are suited for it or not?

Am I the only one who feels this way?:(

 

[vasha]

not to jump in and get clobbered by the mob, but in the defense of rescue organizations . . .

being that the animal has been basically "dumped off" for whatever reason the owner felt necessary, i do feel that rescue organizations do their best to find suitable homes for the dogs that they have at that time.

if at the time, all they have are animals that need a lot of attention, of course they are not going to place that animal in a home where no one is home for most of the day.

i know a few people that are single AND work and have rescue animals that were approved by rescue organizations. one of them was a boxer rescue in north texas.

i feel that the rescues are just trying to provide a new home that is suitable for the animals needs.

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VaSHa