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OneluvBoxers

Boxer Booster
(Ugh) (Tears) Brandy is now 7 months old and was going to get fixed on Tuesday, The vet called and said, that they couldn't do it because her BUN, Creatine and Phosphate levels were high in her blood work. He asked if I could bring in a urine test, I got the results today that her urine is dilute and there is protien in her urine. He thinks there are Kidney problems, he wants to do a test for Leptospirosis which I will get the results next Friday. (Has any one heard of this or there furbaby had Leptospirosis?) If she has Kidney Disease can they live a long life? The other problem is my sister was diagnosised with lymphnoma and we are helping pay her bills while she is out on medical. So I am short on money. Lord I don't know what to do!!!!!!
 
leptospirosis is. . .

. . .syphilis like. Did your baby have her DHLP-P? That is the vaccine that vaccinates against leptospirosis.

Here are some general questions and answers about it..hope it helps you.
All About Leptospirosis In Dogs

What is leptospirosis?
Leptospirosis is a bacterial disease of dogs that can affect the blood, liver, or kidneys. It is caused by bacteria that are spiral shaped.

How do dogs acquire the infection?
The bacteria are carried mainly by rats and other rodents, but infected dogs can also act as a source of the infection. Ingestion of infected urine is the most important means of transmission, but some forms of the bacteria can penetrate damaged or very thin skin. The incubation period (from infection to onset of clinical signs) is usually 4-12 days.

What are the signs of leptospirosis?
Many infections go undetected, but many other cases can be life-threatening. There are three main forms of the disease: hemorrhagic (bleeding), icteric (liver), and renal (kidney).

In the hemorrhagic disease there is early high fever with lethargy and loss of appetite. Multiple small hemorrhages occur in the mouth and on the whites of the eyes. Bloody diarrhea and vomiting may occur. This form is often fatal.

The jaundice form begins much like the hemorrhagic form, and many of the signs are the same. It differs in the presence of a yellow color (jaundice or icterus) in the mouth and whites of the eyes. In severe cases in dogs with white hair, the skin will turn yellow. The renal form causes kidney failure.

These dogs are very lethargic, anorectic, and experience vomiting.
Their mouth may have a very offensive odor, and the ulcers often develop on the tongue. This form may be fatal, but recovered dogs often have chronic kidney disease.

How common is leptospirosis?
This disease is not common in North America because of widespread use of vaccine to prevent it. However, stray, unvaccinated dogs can be infected.

What is the treatment?
Antibiotics are reasonably effective if they are begun promptly. However, these dogs are so sick that hospitalization and intensive nursing care, including intravenous fluids, are necessary.

How can leptospirosis be prevented?
The vaccine for leptospirosis is generally part of the routine vaccination program of veterinarians. Annual boosters are needed to maintain proper immunity.

Can the vaccine cause reactions?
Of all the components of a dog's annual vaccinations, the portion for leptospirosis is the most likely to cause a reaction. This usually results in lethargy for several days and possibly loss of appetite. However, these dogs recover and are then protected against the disease.


Also, here is a good link for you to read..
http://www.labbies.com/lepto.htm

another one also....
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/canineleptospirosis.html

Hope all this information helps you. Good luck:)
~K
 

OneluvBoxers

Boxer Booster
Yes she got her shots. But the vet said there are 250 diffrenet types of Leptospirosis and there isn't a vaccine for all the diffrenet types. We just moved to a new house in May and the people around us have farm animals. So if she does have Leptospirosis it could be from that.
 

TT's Mom

Boxer Buddy
The same thing happend to my Lab when she was going to get spayed (at 6 Mos. old.) Her bun & creat (these are the levels of toxins in the kidneys-the higher the number-the more toxins-i.e-kidneys aren't filtering toxins out) Her vet put her on a kidney diet (Science Diet KD) and told me to give her as much water as she wanted...(to help flush her out) Kidney problems are a tricky thing, if you don't get enough fluid-you can't flush out the toxins;but on the other hand too much fluid makes the kidneys work harder. See what your vet says. She had Bloodwork again in 6 weeks, and she was fine...
Ask your vet about this approach... might help your baby.

P.S- this just goes to show HOW IMPORTANT PRE-OP BLOODWORK IS!!! Our Jazz would have never made it through surgery, because the anesthesia is excreted through the kidneys!!!
 

Draymia

BW Adviser<br><img src="/forums/images/modpaw.gif"
This is probably not Lepto. :( I have heard of some boxer females having kidney problems. Many of these girls had bladder infections as little ones and I don't know if it has anything to do with it. I had one many years ago. If it is kidney problems there is a lot you can do. Sadly, it is not a reversable condition. You will want to put her on a diet that will give her kidneys the least work. My girl lived with a vet student, so the best care was available. They went with a holistic approach. She was happy and lived to be 4.5. Each dog is different.

Talk to your vet about holistic treatments or get a second opinion from a holistic vet.

Here is a site with lots of information:

http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Opera/2167/

Since there has not been any specific research on boxers, some of the other breed info can be of help.

I don't know what is going on as I have heard of this in only females and from all different bloodlines. There is talk about getting some research started to learn more, but that doesn't help people with dogs having problems now. Please do call your breeder and let them know. So little is known right now, we can't say there is a genetic link or what the link may be, so the breeder would not have known of a possible problem.

Take care!
 

OneluvBoxers

Boxer Booster
Thanks for the responses. TT's mom and thanks for giving me some comfort in reading your reply. I goto the doctor on friday, but do you know if Science Diet KD is over the counter or do you have to get it from the vet? Also should I not give her that food till I know for sure would that food be bad for her if she does not have kidney disease?
 

Mama_Zookeeper

Boxer Insane
I have absolutely no advice for you as I have no experience with kidney problems. I just wanted to send you & Brandy tons of hugs, kisses and healing vibes. I know you must be scared, you guys are in my thoughts and prayers. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you.

Dora
 

Jane/Juan G

Boxer Buddy
Hi Christina I've been in your shoes. My boy was diagnosed with kidney disease at 7 months old. They did tests for Lepto at first and that was ruled out. His kidneys were just malformed and his prognosis was not good. But please do not get too worried until they find out for sure what it is. It can make you crazy if you think about it too much. If I can give you any more info please just ask. I'm not very good with the private messaging(have trouble replying). Good luck to you and your precious baby. Jane.
 

lafsalot

Boxer Insane
I believe you mentioned that Brandy had problem with hives during the summer. Was she treated with cortisone to relieve the itching? I know that my creatine and BUN were elevated after I received cortisone injections into a painful frozen shoulder. Eventually it returned to normal. Wishing you and Brandy the best - Cathy
 
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