My Girls Protected Me !!

[beandawgs]

Thank heaven for boxers

its totally normal for a boxer to be protective of his owner. I have had a similar situation with my now deceased boxer, Rocky. Late at night in San Francisco I was walking him when a car pulled up alongside us. I don't know why that car was there but it did NOT feel good. They just waited and it was very strange. Rocky knew something was wrong. He was on a flexi leash and he went right up to the passenger window and just stared at them. No barking, growling, nothing. Just a long ugly stare. They drove off. Who knows, he could have saved my life. Thank Heaven for boxers

 

[abxonetwoa]

Originally posted by iluvboxers
I have the sweetest Boxers in the world but had to put a 6 foot privacy fence in front of my link fence to protect my dogs from harmless boys. They then proceeded to throw things into my yard from the roof of their house, we finally got the landlord to evict this family when he saw that half his roof shingles were missing and we presented them to him. Kids can be so mean to animals and I would say most dog attacks in our area are provoked. I had to start putting my dogs in a small yard for their exercise, these kids thought it was so funny and I would be in the yard when they did it. We have had kids throw things from the street at our animals. We are building out of town!!! These dogs are guard dogs and they will protect you. My male got to the point where he did not like these kids and can't say I blame him. Thank God Dan had those two with him.

Do you think the landlord would have evicted the family if the kids were just barking at your dog?

Your example is 100% justified in my mind.

In Dan's story all the kid did was 'bark' (and only one kid). As a result, anywhere from 1-14 (the kids friends) kids could have been seriously injured.

I have a problem with:

1. A young kid being injured for barking at a dog.
2. Up to 13 of his friends being injured for him barking at a dog.

No illegal activiy took place on their part.


No justification. Look beyond our love for Boxers. I can tell you if my Boxer attack a child, as sad as it would be, I would expect for him to be put down. These are the rules we must abide by if we choose to own pets.

 

[beandawgs]

"I can tell you if my Boxer attack a child, as sad as it would be, I would expect for him to be put down."

On the same hand I wish people would raise their children to respect animals. My mother is in the process of putting up a privacy fence since the neighborhood children love to come up and tease her dogs. I don't send my dogs to their house to tease their kids, ya know?

 

[abxonetwoa]

Originally posted by beandawgs
"I can tell you if my Boxer attack a child, as sad as it would be, I would expect for him to be put down."

On the same hand I wish people would raise their children to respect animals. My mother is in the process of putting up a privacy fence since the neighborhood children love to come up and tease her dogs. I don't send my dogs to their house to tease their kids, ya know?

Some kids respect animals, some don't. (Some parents drill this lesson into their kids and they still don't learn).

Some dogs respect people, some don't (Some owners drill this lesson into their dogs and they still don't learn).

Just because your kids behave doesn't mean your dogs will, and just because you dogs behave doesn't mean your kids will.

You could be the best parent in the world and your kid still might bark at a dog. In this situation, we had 1-2 kids barking and 12-13 not causing trouble at all.

 

[Julie Davis]

Dan,
I can only imagine how scary that whole situation was. Being surrounded by all those thugs, what an awful feeling that must have been! Thank God you had your babies with you! And who knows if Maggie alone would have been enough to scare them.... maybe it was providence that brought Susie into your life as this point in time. I'm sure that after you gave them so much praise and attention, that they realized what good girls they were, and will repeat their heroism whenever needed (and hopefully it won't ever be needed again!!)...I'm sure you're feeling pretty blesseD right now to have those two! Dan, I hope your nerves recover!
Julie

 

[abxonetwoa]

Re: Re: this is not a flame! please don't take it as one!

Originally posted by Elsa

You would also suggest that kids are just "being kids"; that does not excuse threatening behavior on their part. I found your post sad because that is a big problem with how bad teenagers are treated in our society today, "kids will be kids" What about respect and accountability? Some people are unbelievable. [/QUOTE]

Elsa,

I am going to assume that 'Some people are unbelievable' was your attempt to rile me up. In the next post, Brenda then proceeds to give you a 'high five.' If I was to use your own logic, I would be on my way to your houses right now to injure you(possibly seriously... depending on how soon I am stopped or decide to stop). I am glad (and I bet you are too) that I am so 'unbelievable.'

(PLEASE do not take this as a threat - it is only an example! In now way at all am I threatening you or Brenda! I repeat... only an example!)


...on a side note.
I ask that you please be respectful toward me in your posts. Difference of opinion is no excuse for your condescending remarks. Without respect, this message thread will be closed.

Thank You-

 

[abxonetwoa]

Originally posted by Brooklyn-Dan
I'm just curious how you think your dog would react in a situation such as this, when you (and your dog) sensed danger? What do you think is an appropriate response for your dog (or mine) to this?

Would you have me stand there, get the crap beat out of me or worse, and have my dogs sit there, nicely, wiggling their little tails while daddy gets beaten, and then walk off happily with a gang of kids as spoils of their "victory?" I don't think so. My dogs were protecting me from harm and I now know they would do so with their last breaths, just as I would protect them with my last breath too!!

[Edited by Brooklyn-Dan on 03-12-2001 at 10:44 PM]

Dan,

First - Thank You for your respectful response. I re-read my post and some wordings sound a bit harsher than I really meant. I think you understood my actualy point and went beyond those words - I respect that.

As to your question-

That is a very hard question to answer. It has been a very hard question for the courts to answer. How far must the enemy go before you can attack back and fall under the self defense category?

For myself, If my dog would attack in any situation where I (or him) was provoked I would be a very proud owner. If my dog was attempting to attack for reasons I feel were unprovoked (such as your situation) I would check into fixing the problem just cause I love my dog (A dog doesn't deserve death for a small mistake - on the other thand - a kid doesn't deserve death for a small mistake either).

I was not in your situation, so I really don't have all the facts to comments 100% - I have only commented on what you gave me. I wish I could completely have your back on this one, but I think a kid saying 'think we could take them' and another one 'barking like a dog' would put your dog in the self defense category.

Like I said, it is a tough decision... I am just glad that nobody was injured (including the children). I am also sure that you are happy your dogs didn't attack these children as well..

 

[TheMomRox]

I'm still new to this arena. I never knew things could get so out of hand so fast. I love to read the board and see how all aspects of the veiws get looked at.
I first want to say to Dan that you have some wonderful Boxer Girls. Boxers(from what I've read)are family orientated. They are suppose to protect the den(family). That was one of the main reasons we got boxers, for their love and protection of children and family. I also know, from other stories that I've read that boxers look mean and scary BUT are the most gentle of breeds. They were doing what comes to them naturally, they (like all animals that follow in packs, that includes elephants..) sense danger and protect their own.
As for going off the deep end about boys being boys. In the city you can't be toooo careful(we live way too close to a city)and if you can't walk the streets then what?? Lock ourselves up in our houses??? It doen's matter where you live, bad things can happen. Not all kids are dangerous, BUT why spit in the face of danger. Not all dogs are danerous, BUT I wouldn't go up to a strange dog and pet it either. Dan's girls are hero's. I'm glad I own a boxer!!!! I am also home alot at night by myself or one of my kids are home alone. I know my furbabies are protecting us. I hear them every so often growl when there's a noise outside. I feel better knowing that they are near.
We also have people teasing the dogs and throwing things through the fence. We have a 4 ft. chain link fence and let me tell you. It makes me mad to hear someone tease my babies. BUT NEVER, have they ever been agressive or mean, even to little babies,they just sniff them and would give them a kiss if I let them slobber over them. I also know Max would and could easily jump that fence, he isn't an aggressive dog, he's a BOXER!!! God bless all the boxers that keep our family's safe. Too bad everyone doesn't own one(or two or three...).You could get a can of mace, but a can of mace can't lick your face with dog food breath first thing in the morning. Some people get guns(EEEEE!!!!) BUT it can't hear every little sound, snuggle with you at nite and give you 200% loyalty and love.
Sorry,to go on and on. I feel very strongly against violance, but feel just as strongly about defending family and loved ones. I've seen TOO many kids with guns, shooting in schools(elementry yet). Better to have a strong Boxer stand to protect you than a gun.

 

[iluvboxers]

Have you ever read any of those angel books? For some reason every story where someone was in danger and a dog appeared by their side it was a Great Pyrenees. One that I remember was a women being followed and when she turned the corner on the street a Great Pyrenees appear and stayed with her till she got to her door and then was gone. Divine intervention or what ever, Dan has two angels IMO!!!

 

[Simone]

I am coming in on this thread late, but more power to Susie and Maggie! That was awesome! :D