I'm going to pull my hair out.
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Misty Hofbau
Boxer Pal
O.K. I guess I didn't explain my frustration well enough. I am not upset that he is going potty in the house. I understand that he is a baby, I was going outside with him every single time for the first three weeks, and praising him like crazy when he went, and he was doing awesome. And he really seemed to have it down. Like I said earlier, he was going to the door and asking to be let out, running out and going, and running back to the door to come in. And still everytime, I would make a big deal out of it. He is so super smart, he is really learning everything at an amazing pace. He learned to sit in a matter of about 20 minutes, and sits every time I ask him to. He wants to make me happy so much. I am very proud of him for how well he has done this far. I just am wondering why all of the sudden, he doesn't want to go out, and would rather go on the floor. I didn't mean to sound that frustrated that I would need to repeat after you "10 weeks old is just a baby"
I realize that, and I am not like ready to beat him or anything. I just can't believe that he will go poo poo outside every single time, and almost always pee outside, and then start going pee inside almost every time. I was wondering... Does anyone think he would do this because he felt like he wasn't getting enough attention, or because he was "mad" at us for something? Do they do that? And as far as the breeder letting us take him so early. Cooper is a mixed breed. The lady we got him from raises rottweilers, her rottweiler got bred by a registered boxer, and she was really mad. She didn't want the puppies to begin with, so she threw them outside in the snow and never paid any attention to them, they were freezing and had never even been played with. She took the rest of the litter to Wal-Mart and gave them away the next day. I couldn't stand the thought of her taking all these babies and giving them to complete strangers that weren't there looking for a puppy, so I took Cooper and a friend of mine took another one. The rest she gave away to unknown people at Wal-Mart the next day. Sorry this is so long, just felt like I should explain. Misty
P.S- You can see Cooper in our picture gallery. He is such a doll.
I realize that, and I am not like ready to beat him or anything. I just can't believe that he will go poo poo outside every single time, and almost always pee outside, and then start going pee inside almost every time. I was wondering... Does anyone think he would do this because he felt like he wasn't getting enough attention, or because he was "mad" at us for something? Do they do that? And as far as the breeder letting us take him so early. Cooper is a mixed breed. The lady we got him from raises rottweilers, her rottweiler got bred by a registered boxer, and she was really mad. She didn't want the puppies to begin with, so she threw them outside in the snow and never paid any attention to them, they were freezing and had never even been played with. She took the rest of the litter to Wal-Mart and gave them away the next day. I couldn't stand the thought of her taking all these babies and giving them to complete strangers that weren't there looking for a puppy, so I took Cooper and a friend of mine took another one. The rest she gave away to unknown people at Wal-Mart the next day. Sorry this is so long, just felt like I should explain. MistyP.S- You can see Cooper in our picture gallery. He is such a doll.
PawPrintBoxers
Banned
Yikes!!! That is such an incredibly sad story for the poor baby. What a horrible horrible woman. God is watching and she will get hers :(
Christina Ghimenti
PawPrint Boxers
Sunny Northern California
Boxer Champions and Loving Pets
Christina Ghimenti
PawPrint Boxers
Sunny Northern California
Boxer Champions and Loving Pets
What a sad story! Be patient with Busters house training. Puppies often go through a series of relapses. Just be consistent and before you know it you will have a perfectly house trained puppy. I would recommend though that you do go out with Buster so that you can reward him with treats when he does his business and also praise like crazy.. You want there to be no doubt in his mind that he has done the right thing.
Think of Cooper as premature! If it makes you feel any better, Cole is potty trained and at one and a half years of age he swallowed my diamond earrings! Talk about frustration!
I promise it will get better and if it doesn't, you will love him so much that it doesn't matter!
Good for you for taking this little guy in....
I promise it will get better and if it doesn't, you will love him so much that it doesn't matter!
Good for you for taking this little guy in....
Burtess
Boxer Buddy
We got Burtess when he was 4 months old. He was partially potty trained when he came home.
The problem was he had round worms. This gave him a nasty case of the runs. He would run downstairs and poop on the floor and also in his crate. After 2 weeks of this (we thought he was just adjusting to his new home) we got a fecal test done and treated him for worms. After treatment everything changed.
I tell you I almost had a nervous breakdown from cleaning up all the craps!! I mean cleaning up dog poop, cat litter box, baby diapers; thats all I seemed to do!!
Anyway, now he is 6 months old and doesn't have #2 accidents at all. A couple times a week he will still pee on the floor but that is usually when we aren't paying attention. He is now a very good dog!!
Just give it some time and try to stay calm. He will come around. Consistency is the key. Take him out regularly and reward him when he does go. Go outside with him and make sure he goes when he is out there with you. Do not come in until he goes! And praise him like crazy when he does good!
That worked with us!
As for the chewing, we have a kong, Nylabones, Gummiebones, ropes, squeeky toys - you name it, but a Barbie always seems to taste better!!!!
Burt
The problem was he had round worms. This gave him a nasty case of the runs. He would run downstairs and poop on the floor and also in his crate. After 2 weeks of this (we thought he was just adjusting to his new home) we got a fecal test done and treated him for worms. After treatment everything changed.
I tell you I almost had a nervous breakdown from cleaning up all the craps!! I mean cleaning up dog poop, cat litter box, baby diapers; thats all I seemed to do!!
Anyway, now he is 6 months old and doesn't have #2 accidents at all. A couple times a week he will still pee on the floor but that is usually when we aren't paying attention. He is now a very good dog!!
Just give it some time and try to stay calm. He will come around. Consistency is the key. Take him out regularly and reward him when he does go. Go outside with him and make sure he goes when he is out there with you. Do not come in until he goes! And praise him like crazy when he does good!
That worked with us!
As for the chewing, we have a kong, Nylabones, Gummiebones, ropes, squeeky toys - you name it, but a Barbie always seems to taste better!!!!
Burt
BrazilBoxer
Super Boxer
Not to scare you, but Lady is 14 months old and only within the last 2 months or so have we had 98% peeing outside. She still poops in the house once in a while if I don't pay attention to her and take her out right after she's done eating.
I thought it would never end, and this feeling went through various phases. There was the "I'm taking her out every two hours and she's going pee in the house still" phase, the "I'm taking her out every three house and she's going in the house still" phase, the "I'm taking her out every time she asks and every four hours and she still goes pee in her hiding spot" phase, and the "I'm taking her out every time she asks" phase, which has just started. Each one of these was a couple of months long.
What are some tricks I have learned? (a) vigilance - don't let them out of your sight, and (b) if your puppy has a favorite spot, don't let them go near there even if you're there next to them. Today, Lady held it for 6 hours, but I know she would have gone in her spot if I hadn't blocked it off.
Good luck (yours has to be better than mine, Lady has been so slow), Mariah.
I thought it would never end, and this feeling went through various phases. There was the "I'm taking her out every two hours and she's going pee in the house still" phase, the "I'm taking her out every three house and she's going in the house still" phase, the "I'm taking her out every time she asks and every four hours and she still goes pee in her hiding spot" phase, and the "I'm taking her out every time she asks" phase, which has just started. Each one of these was a couple of months long.
What are some tricks I have learned? (a) vigilance - don't let them out of your sight, and (b) if your puppy has a favorite spot, don't let them go near there even if you're there next to them. Today, Lady held it for 6 hours, but I know she would have gone in her spot if I hadn't blocked it off.
Good luck (yours has to be better than mine, Lady has been so slow), Mariah.
layla'smommy
Super Boxer
To answer your question about if Cooper/dogs in general do things because they are "mad" at us, here is a quote from a book I highly recommend, The Culture Clash, by Jean Donaldson:
"It seems that most people still buy into the Walt Disney dog:he is very intelligent, he has morals, is capable of seeking revenge and planning, he solves complex problems, he understands the value of the artifacts in Walt's home. Nobody wants B.F. Skinner's dog, the black input-output box who is so obviously not the furry member of your family. It's been marketed all wrong, I think. Skinner was right but has gotten bad press...Here is an example that illustrates the difference:
A dog has been reprimanded every time he has been caught chewing furniture. Now the dog refrains from chewing furniture when the owner is home but becomes destructure when left alone. When the owner comes home and discovers the damage, the dog slinks around, ears back and head down.
Walt's view: The dog learns from the reprimand that chewing furniture is wrong. The dog resents being left alone, and to get back at the owner, chews the furniture when the owner leaves. He deliberately, in other words, engages in an act he knows to be wrong. When the owner comes home the dog feels guilty about what he has done.
BF's view: The dog learns that chewing furniture is dangerous when the owner is present but safe when the owner is gone. The dog is slightly anxious when left alone and feels better when he chews. Later, when the owner comes home, the dog behaves appeasingly in an attmept to avoid or turn off the punishment he has learned often happens at this time. The owner's arrival home and/or pre-punishment demeanor has become a predictor: The dog knows he's about to be punished. He doesn't know why."
Ok, I know that is not the problem you are dealing with, but it still answers the question. Dogs don't have the ability to do things out of revenge. They don't have the capacity to think about our internal states, only how those internal states manifest themselves and affect them. This is actually the first couple paragraphs in the book, and at first I was a bit taken aback, but once you get into it, and realize what Jean Donaldson is saying it really isn't as bad as it sounds, and it makes perfect sense. I hope this helps! Sorry this is so long!
Jenni & Layla
"It seems that most people still buy into the Walt Disney dog:he is very intelligent, he has morals, is capable of seeking revenge and planning, he solves complex problems, he understands the value of the artifacts in Walt's home. Nobody wants B.F. Skinner's dog, the black input-output box who is so obviously not the furry member of your family. It's been marketed all wrong, I think. Skinner was right but has gotten bad press...Here is an example that illustrates the difference:
A dog has been reprimanded every time he has been caught chewing furniture. Now the dog refrains from chewing furniture when the owner is home but becomes destructure when left alone. When the owner comes home and discovers the damage, the dog slinks around, ears back and head down.
Walt's view: The dog learns from the reprimand that chewing furniture is wrong. The dog resents being left alone, and to get back at the owner, chews the furniture when the owner leaves. He deliberately, in other words, engages in an act he knows to be wrong. When the owner comes home the dog feels guilty about what he has done.
BF's view: The dog learns that chewing furniture is dangerous when the owner is present but safe when the owner is gone. The dog is slightly anxious when left alone and feels better when he chews. Later, when the owner comes home, the dog behaves appeasingly in an attmept to avoid or turn off the punishment he has learned often happens at this time. The owner's arrival home and/or pre-punishment demeanor has become a predictor: The dog knows he's about to be punished. He doesn't know why."
Ok, I know that is not the problem you are dealing with, but it still answers the question. Dogs don't have the ability to do things out of revenge. They don't have the capacity to think about our internal states, only how those internal states manifest themselves and affect them. This is actually the first couple paragraphs in the book, and at first I was a bit taken aback, but once you get into it, and realize what Jean Donaldson is saying it really isn't as bad as it sounds, and it makes perfect sense. I hope this helps! Sorry this is so long!
Jenni & Layla
Scrapper's Mom
Boxer Insane
You are doing a really good thing taking in your baby from that terrible situation. I don't think the puppy is going to be "mad" about a situation unless there is something in his routine that's changed and he's not happy with that. Was a new pet brought into the house? Is he being left alone a lot more than usual. Is there stress in your current living situation? Animals can pick up on many things and act not quite normally as a result. Or his behavior could just be a normal part of the housetraining process.
You realize, that was written in jest, but to make a point. There have frequently been threads on here where the person is wondering why their puppy isn't housetrained after X number of months, weeks, or even days. I don't know the background of the person writing, or the particular situation, or their experience with dogs so I just assume that the writer may be unfamiliar with all the work that a puppy requires and the time that it takes to get to a certain stage of reliability.
There is another reason a dog may pee uncontrollably inside and that is due to a bladder infection. One of my dogs had one of those when he was a little guy, but when he peed, it was little dribbles here and there, not big puddles. Otherwise, housebreaking is an up and down thing. Just keep at it, over time it will work out.
Cooper is a very cute little guy.
You realize, that was written in jest, but to make a point. There have frequently been threads on here where the person is wondering why their puppy isn't housetrained after X number of months, weeks, or even days. I don't know the background of the person writing, or the particular situation, or their experience with dogs so I just assume that the writer may be unfamiliar with all the work that a puppy requires and the time that it takes to get to a certain stage of reliability.
There is another reason a dog may pee uncontrollably inside and that is due to a bladder infection. One of my dogs had one of those when he was a little guy, but when he peed, it was little dribbles here and there, not big puddles. Otherwise, housebreaking is an up and down thing. Just keep at it, over time it will work out.
Cooper is a very cute little guy.
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