I just bought a boxer puppy and named her Shelby I wasn't going to let her have a littler of pups but now i think that i might let her have just one litter i mean i have all of the time for it and i think it would be so new and exciting, i mean i know you must take the good with the bad, and not everything will go perfect i expect that. But if anyone has any information, or previous experience with letting their dog have pups, i would like to hear about it! lovicon if you would like to share! Or any information. My vet says with Shelby's blood lines you would be stupid to get her spayed. Thank-you
I would like to breed my pooch!
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Please think about what you have just said and make sure you know all that is involved with breeding.
There are responsible breeders out there that take the time to test their dogs before breeding for any unwanted traits. Are you willing an able to do that?
Are you breeding to improve the breed?
Are you willing to have the dogs returned to you if the "Sale" sours?
I run a Boxer rescue and at present every rescuer I know is loaded with dogs. Thats unfair to them, they born by no fault of their own to miss out on a family because of the yet unborn.
Please think this out!! For all the homeless Boxers please!
There are responsible breeders out there that take the time to test their dogs before breeding for any unwanted traits. Are you willing an able to do that?
Are you breeding to improve the breed?
Are you willing to have the dogs returned to you if the "Sale" sours?
I run a Boxer rescue and at present every rescuer I know is loaded with dogs. Thats unfair to them, they born by no fault of their own to miss out on a family because of the yet unborn.
Please think this out!! For all the homeless Boxers please!
Aimee
Boxer Insane
I have to agree with Boxermom 3 as I volunteer for rescue also. Ethical breeders health test their dogs prior to breeding stud and bitch. This is pricey just to have "a litter". If you plan on improving the breed and paying out the money to do the proper health testing that is a decision only you can make. You must make sure too that you are able to find suitable homes, you should consider spay/neuter contracts, etc. There are so many boxers in need of loving homes because many buyers don't do their homework prior to purchasing them and so many find them to be disposable and dump them once the puppy novelty wears off. I just urge you to weigh your options before making a decision. Having a litter of puppies is very expensive and time consuming. You have to consider too, are you willing to loose your dog if something happens during her pregnancy, as this does happen :( Best of luck in your decision making.
Krikkit
Boxer Insane
Hello Shelby's Mom, Matthew answered a similar question a while ago and below is his post 
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There is a chance of any mammal, humans included, dying from giving birth. In dogs, most that do die, will die from a heart problem, a whelping problem or a post whelping problem.
1) There are a couple of nasty genetic heart conditions in boxers. Cardiomyopathy is one, Aortic Stenosis is one. These are diseases that can be fatal in a boxer. Both can be screened for and this potential for death of a dam is one reason why breeders should vigourously test their dogs for signs of these diseases. It should be considered that some of this testing can be expensive and should be factored into breeding costs.
2) Whelping problems that can cause difficulty are inertia, both primary and secondary. Primary is when a bitch does not actually go into third stage labour (delivery) and the pups are virtually left in to rot if they are not removed by emergency C-Section. Secondary inertia will eventuate in difficult labours (the bitch gets tired) or in big litters. Both these inertias can lead to uterine haemorrhage and/or a later dose of pyometra (literally pus in the uterus) both of which can be fatal to a bitch in labour.
3) Post whelping problems can be the afore mentioned secondary inertia. "You *think* she's finished", in rare cases eclampsia (lack of calcium, "milk fever" in cows) and haemorrhage.
Most or all are avoidable but one has to know what one is looking for.
Next, I'd have to question whether "fun and wonderful experience (not to mention all those cute puppies for 8 weeks!" is a good enough motivation to have puppies.
One edict breeders are taught early is to only breed to improve the breed. That is, can you make a better boxer by breeding. There are hundreds of boxers in shelters the world over, many of which come from reputable breeders no doubt but many more that come from novice breeders who didn't know what they were on about.
I don't put Peg in this category as at least she is asking at an early enough time to way the pros and cons.
Peg, a litter costs a fortune if done right. And no doubt you want it done right or you wouldn't be asking.
Starting with a 5 month old bitch, you have some or all of the following costs
Purchase price of the bitch
Cost to feed the bitch to breeding age
Cost of vaccinations
Cost of health screening for genetic disease.
Cost of worming the bitch till breeding age
Miscellaneous costs that crop up. A case of kennel cough requiring treatment for example
Stud fee - high because you will want the best dog available
Cost of feeding a pregnant bitch
Health checks on pregnant bitch
Cost of equipment, heating lamps, whelping box, towels scales etc etc
Puppies born
Cost of feeding nursing bitch (often triple normal)
Cost of post whelping vet check and probable oxytocin needle
Cost of vet check on new puppies
Cost of weaning puppies
Cost of vaccinations for puppies
Cost of worming puppies
I don't think I need go on.
I have a litter of 7 day old puppies right now, as the board knows and the cost of this litter so far is well over $3000.00
And we have 7 weeks to go
So here's some food for thought
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Matthew Cowley R.N.
Marimat Boxers
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There are many very good links about breeding here
http://boxerworld.com/links/Breeding_Issues/How_to_be_a_responsible_Breeder/
This site takes you through breeding from mating to whelping 'virtually' and you might find it useful as well http://www.bluegrace.com/virtualbreeding.html
Sharon
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Cut from thread - http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=3825
There is a chance of any mammal, humans included, dying from giving birth. In dogs, most that do die, will die from a heart problem, a whelping problem or a post whelping problem.
1) There are a couple of nasty genetic heart conditions in boxers. Cardiomyopathy is one, Aortic Stenosis is one. These are diseases that can be fatal in a boxer. Both can be screened for and this potential for death of a dam is one reason why breeders should vigourously test their dogs for signs of these diseases. It should be considered that some of this testing can be expensive and should be factored into breeding costs.
2) Whelping problems that can cause difficulty are inertia, both primary and secondary. Primary is when a bitch does not actually go into third stage labour (delivery) and the pups are virtually left in to rot if they are not removed by emergency C-Section. Secondary inertia will eventuate in difficult labours (the bitch gets tired) or in big litters. Both these inertias can lead to uterine haemorrhage and/or a later dose of pyometra (literally pus in the uterus) both of which can be fatal to a bitch in labour.
3) Post whelping problems can be the afore mentioned secondary inertia. "You *think* she's finished", in rare cases eclampsia (lack of calcium, "milk fever" in cows) and haemorrhage.
Most or all are avoidable but one has to know what one is looking for.
Next, I'd have to question whether "fun and wonderful experience (not to mention all those cute puppies for 8 weeks!" is a good enough motivation to have puppies.
One edict breeders are taught early is to only breed to improve the breed. That is, can you make a better boxer by breeding. There are hundreds of boxers in shelters the world over, many of which come from reputable breeders no doubt but many more that come from novice breeders who didn't know what they were on about.
I don't put Peg in this category as at least she is asking at an early enough time to way the pros and cons.
Peg, a litter costs a fortune if done right. And no doubt you want it done right or you wouldn't be asking.
Starting with a 5 month old bitch, you have some or all of the following costs
Purchase price of the bitch
Cost to feed the bitch to breeding age
Cost of vaccinations
Cost of health screening for genetic disease.
Cost of worming the bitch till breeding age
Miscellaneous costs that crop up. A case of kennel cough requiring treatment for example
Stud fee - high because you will want the best dog available
Cost of feeding a pregnant bitch
Health checks on pregnant bitch
Cost of equipment, heating lamps, whelping box, towels scales etc etc
Puppies born
Cost of feeding nursing bitch (often triple normal)
Cost of post whelping vet check and probable oxytocin needle
Cost of vet check on new puppies
Cost of weaning puppies
Cost of vaccinations for puppies
Cost of worming puppies
I don't think I need go on.
I have a litter of 7 day old puppies right now, as the board knows and the cost of this litter so far is well over $3000.00
And we have 7 weeks to go
So here's some food for thought
__________________
Matthew Cowley R.N.
Marimat Boxers
===================================
There are many very good links about breeding here
http://boxerworld.com/links/Breeding_Issues/How_to_be_a_responsible_Breeder/
This site takes you through breeding from mating to whelping 'virtually' and you might find it useful as well http://www.bluegrace.com/virtualbreeding.html
Sharon
ninersneal
Super Boxer
I, too, had thought about breeding my female. She comes from excellent lines, show quality all the way. Then we fell in love with her. Such a wonderful dog, the thought about losing her or one of her pups . This thread made me think twice.http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4534&highlight=sabine
You're right to stop and think and rethink it.
I lost my foundation bitch during my first
litter. She died in the c-section. 9 puppies
-- we saved them all, but they had to be
handreared. That's bottlefed, every two
hours around the clock for the first week --
and it took nearly 2 hours to do 9 puppies.
Missed work, enormous vet bills (still have to
pay c-section fees even though the dog dies,
then also have to pay cremation and necropsy
fees).
As much as I grew to love her babies ,
there wasn't a time during that
entire seemingly endless, horrific puppy rearing
stage when I wouldn't have traded them all
to have her back.
Breeding is NEVER something to do for fun. I
did everything I could and paid the ultimate price.
If "fun" or "profit" had been my motives I could
never have lived with myself. It was hard enough
as it was.
I lost my foundation bitch during my first
litter. She died in the c-section. 9 puppies
-- we saved them all, but they had to be
handreared. That's bottlefed, every two
hours around the clock for the first week --
and it took nearly 2 hours to do 9 puppies.
Missed work, enormous vet bills (still have to
pay c-section fees even though the dog dies,
then also have to pay cremation and necropsy
fees).
As much as I grew to love her babies ,
there wasn't a time during that
entire seemingly endless, horrific puppy rearing
stage when I wouldn't have traded them all
to have her back.
Breeding is NEVER something to do for fun. I
did everything I could and paid the ultimate price.
If "fun" or "profit" had been my motives I could
never have lived with myself. It was hard enough
as it was.
Tulsa-Dan
Your Friendly Moderator
Please read the following thread before even THINKING about breeding your dog.
http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4534
The purpose of breeding is to better the breed. If you are breeding just to have a house full of cute puppies or because the neighbors want a puppy, you are breeding for the wrong reasons. It is very, very expensive and can even lead to the death of the bitch.
My best advice is to leave breeding to the professional breeders and get your dog spayed or neutered at the earliest possibly opportunity.
http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4534
The purpose of breeding is to better the breed. If you are breeding just to have a house full of cute puppies or because the neighbors want a puppy, you are breeding for the wrong reasons. It is very, very expensive and can even lead to the death of the bitch.
My best advice is to leave breeding to the professional breeders and get your dog spayed or neutered at the earliest possibly opportunity.
Claudia807
Completely Boxer Crazy
Good for you for asking for information before forging ahead. I know it is very easy to look at your own dog and think that she is so wonderful that there should be more just like her. I think my Lucy is the most beauuuuuutiful Boxer in the world. But I can look at her and see quite easily that she doesn't match the breed standard. Plus, I do rescue and when you deal with homeless Boxers each and every day, the last thing you want to do is make more.
This is not to say I am against all breeding. If someone is doing everything the right way, and when their Boxer has been proven in the ring as being a stellar example of the breed, then of course we want to see wonderful Boxers that help to improve the breed.
Just today I saw an ad for Boxer pups on XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX. The seller noted that the puppies were big and that the momma had not survived the c-section. How many of us would be prepared to lose our beloved dogs in the pursuit of breeding? (no legitimate breeder would sell pups this way, but that's a whole other can of worms).
This is not to say I am against all breeding. If someone is doing everything the right way, and when their Boxer has been proven in the ring as being a stellar example of the breed, then of course we want to see wonderful Boxers that help to improve the breed.
Just today I saw an ad for Boxer pups on XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX. The seller noted that the puppies were big and that the momma had not survived the c-section. How many of us would be prepared to lose our beloved dogs in the pursuit of breeding? (no legitimate breeder would sell pups this way, but that's a whole other can of worms).
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Yes really think hard about this....
my female just started having hers afew hours ago and i lost the very first one and it is so heartbreaking and i cant hardly believe it but it happened. She now has delivered to live ones but all the same it is so sad so please remember before you breed that this can happen to you to. :( Make sure its a chance your willing to take and be able to take the good with the bad.
my female just started having hers afew hours ago and i lost the very first one and it is so heartbreaking and i cant hardly believe it but it happened. She now has delivered to live ones but all the same it is so sad so please remember before you breed that this can happen to you to. :( Make sure its a chance your willing to take and be able to take the good with the bad.
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