I might have to give Shankly up. Please Advise

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I just saw this post and read through all of it.
I am glad Shankley is staying at home.
I am not in your shoes so I am not going to judge you. But this much I know that in life you have to make some hard decisions. Back home in Calcutta, India we had 6 Fox Terriers and one Boxer. We loved our dogs very much. Out of the 6 terriers, three were fosters, one died and two were ours. Our Boxer girl, Poppy, was with us for a long time.......but i remember this one day very clearly...I was around 6 then. My Dad had just got transfered to another city for work. That day a gentleman came and took Poppy away. I was very angry with my Dad but now I know why he did what he did. Taking Poppy to the other city was not only expensive but really difficult ( I am talking of India in the 70s). Moreover I know my father was finding it financially hard to maintain our dogs (then we just had Poppy and one of the Terriers). And Poppy was expensive (my father gave her the best treatment always)...so we had to give up Poppy and she was adopted in an excellent home. And we took Jonaki, our Terrier,with us. While in that city my father got colon cancer----we thought that he would die, but he survived and we came back to Calcutta again. Jonaki had a puppy (that time we were not that educated about spaying and neutering) and we also got another dog. But life was getting harder.....since I was late born, my Dad was in the retiring age when I was just 10. Every penny mattered...my brother was also in school around that time. For us Indians, education is very important--we cannot even think of not doing college. So money had to be saved for college. So inorder to have order in our future life, to save every little penny, my father also gave up our Terriers. He did home review and our dogs went to good homes. Life is India is different...it is a place where people who are below poverty level don't even get to eat one proper meal a day.......in that country a life of an animal pales in comparision to the life of a human being.

When I came to the US, my husband and I got Draco. My perspective towards Draco is totally different. His life was as important to me as the life of any other human being. I would have done anything, I mean anything for him. The last 4 months of his life we spent more that $5000 on him....but only because we could afford. We got Draco on Aug 26th, 2000 and June 2001 I had my daughter Royina. My feelings for Draco never ever changed for a moment ( I guess I loved/ love that ManDog too much). Royina was 4 months old, when Draco got sick and needed all of my time..and I devoted that time to him. And if I have to do it all over again...I will in one heartbeat. And I could have never imagined the thought of giving up Draco. He is/was my first child. And if neccessary I will do the same for Argos [even though I know that my love for D is different from A---I love Argos with my heart but Draco is my heart :)D Debbie Knowles, remember saying that about Hannah Sue??)]
All I am saying here is that depending on the circumstances and situation we realy have to make different choices in life. How much it hurts we still have to make these choices. And though I personally would never have thought of giving up Draco when Royina was born, I don't think I should judge Mikes wife. For me Draco was my committment and responsibilty and the same thing I will say about Argos. As long as I am capable and fit I will do anything for them. And Mike sounded as if he was looking for a good home for Shankley (before things turned out just perfect). He was not planning to relegate her to the backyard.....atleast a good adopted home is much better than a cold backyard.
As for Mike saying that we Boxer lovers need our heads checked, maybe Mike doesnot realize the urgency of our love for our Boxer Babies, again maybe he does. But even if he doesn't it doesnot make him a person with horns. For each person priorities are different.
 
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Loke

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So glad to hear the update! I've been following this post for that very reason. Amy Lyn said it perfectly. I've also been there, done that, twice!! The first one I had one dog and when our second one came I had 2! My husband is also military so he could be gone for weeks at a time and it was stressful but we made it and I'm glad we didn't have to face giving up a dog, even if it wouldn't have happened. Hope all goes well. Give it a few months and you'll all be happy!:cool:

Congrats on the new baby!!partyicon
 

scribe1128

Super Boxer
I've been watching thise threat closely, but decided to stay out of the fray. I was thrilled to see MIKEJO's update that Shanks is going nowhere! Congrats, Mike, that things worked out and congrats on the new baby. Pretty soon, when the dust settles, everything will be peaceful again. Titus and Lady send boxer hugs to Shankley!
 

uno

Boxer Pal
Mike,

I'm so glad that you've been able to find, at the very least, a temporary solution to having to give up Shankley. I've been a member of the board for a while, and know first hand how fanatical some of the members can be. As I said I have been blasted in the past and probably will be again. Fortunately there are also many members that are not so daft and are very compassionate.

When my son was first diagnosed with leukemia last October, the Chit Chat board was one of the first places that I went to for support. Believe me there are a load of sensible, sensitive, and compassionate people here. We're receiving support from all over the world thanks to the many good people at BW.

I meant what I said when I said that I hoped you could separate the wheat from the chaff. Despite the editorial comments that came along with many of the suggestions, some of the suggestions were good ones. I would ask that you pay particular attention to the one regarding Joanne's hormones. When my son was born I was in the middle of a transfer with my job. We had to move a 6-hour drive from where my wife and I had grown. I had moved ahead of Janice in January. My company was very understanding and sent me home by plane to be with her every weekend. Janice stayed with her parents during the week. In March Robby was born and I was able to catch a flight home and be there for his birth. I made it with about 2.5 hours to spare. By May we had to complete the move. Janice through out all of this did not want to go. She was very resentful of having to be so far away from her family and friends. To make a long story short when November came around Janice still had post-partem depression. It was so bad, that while she was on the phone with me she told me that the only reason she hadn't attempted suicide was because of Robby. I immediately got on the phone with her priest and told him of the situation. He told me that he would talk with her but that I needed to take her to the doctor. I did and the doctor ran blood tests on her and sure enough her hormones were completely out of wack. The doctor put her on medication and life improved dramatically. That was 13 years ago.

I'm not saying that this was the cause for why Joanne was having a problem with Shankley. I don't know what the problem was/is. God knows that a new baby by itself is reason enough for your lives to turn upside down. I just thought it was unfair what was going on with the responses you were getting. None of these people knew/knows of your complete situation. We knew only what was in the post. Instead of just giving you the advice you asked for, well you know the rest.

I guess that's it for now. Take care, and don't let what happened with your post get you down on the board. There are some truly wonderful people here.
 

McGehee1

Super Boxer
I want to first congratulate you on finding a great solution to your problem. It sounds like, not only will Shankley get to stay, but she's gonna have it better than she EVER did with all the grandparents around and lots of attention. We (BW members)knew you could do it, which is why we pushed so hard. We've all been there with babies, puppies, kids, jobs, and other challenges in one way, shape or form. I have to say, I was feeling very
sympathetic to your situation until I read your second post. That's what set me off and when I got fired up about the situation. I did not feel you were being fair to those that took the time to offer the information/advice that YOU came to the board asking for.

I've also since taken the time to review your previous posts on the board, for example a few titles I found:

2/1/02 Update on Shankley where you state "From tomorrow she will have been in the vets for a week I miss her so much and I feel so sorry for her. I just hope that she gets better soon and she can come home." (THIS WAS JUST 3 MONTHS AGO!)

3/12/01 My dog wears socks

4/24/01 Funny Story from Last Night

5/11/01 Do you ever talk to your dog like a human?

6/26/01 Boxers and pregnant women

I sure enjoyed reading these, but geez, it sounded to me like you were talking about Shankley like the rest of us...like one of the kids. (and we need our heads examined?) hmmnnn...

I take no offense to any of your comments, however, since we're all here to give our opinions and speak our minds and share in the love of our boxers. That's what BW is all about and bless Olly for sharing this site with us.

Once again, congratulations on the new baby, and your complete family!! I'm sure it's a decision that you'll never regret.
 
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