I am so mad I can scream
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I'm sorry that you are still having problems. I apoligize if you have already answered this, but have you taken her to the vet and if so what tests have they done?
Sometimes UTI's don't show up in a urine test. They may need to test the urine directly from the bladder. If your vet can eliminate all possible health problems, then it has to be a behavior problem.
How long can she hold it when she is in the crate? Does she ever urinate in there or when she is on a leash when she in the house?
A behaviorist might be able to help. Maybe if they spent some time in your house them might be able to figure out what the problem it. Have your read "The Culture Clash" but Jean Donaldson. She has an excellent section on house training.
Have your ever caught her in the act and what did you do?
If you answers these questions maybe one of us will be able to help.
Good luck with your girl.
Sometimes UTI's don't show up in a urine test. They may need to test the urine directly from the bladder. If your vet can eliminate all possible health problems, then it has to be a behavior problem.
How long can she hold it when she is in the crate? Does she ever urinate in there or when she is on a leash when she in the house?
A behaviorist might be able to help. Maybe if they spent some time in your house them might be able to figure out what the problem it. Have your read "The Culture Clash" but Jean Donaldson. She has an excellent section on house training.
Have your ever caught her in the act and what did you do?
If you answers these questions maybe one of us will be able to help.
Good luck with your girl.
kimiiii
Boxer Pal
Please, OP, don't be offended at the replies... we have all been there (I am smack dab in the middle of the same problem, believe me) but a little humor can lighten your day and help you cope.
My puppers can go outside, leave a pile worthy of Guinness, walk back in the house and do another pile 5 minutes later, with no sign that she needed to go again at all. I completely understand your frustration and feeling of "What have I done? I can't do this anymore!"
If it really comes down to it and you just cannot have this in your life, you do what is right for you. Don't let guilt tear you up. Not every boxer/owner situation works out.
I agree that the vet is the first place to start.
Good luck... and I truly hope that you aren't offended at my comment about your husband... but that is how I deal with stressful/difficult times... I find humor and get through it. I was hoping to do the same with someone else but I apologize if it was wrong for you.
Sincerely, KIM
My puppers can go outside, leave a pile worthy of Guinness, walk back in the house and do another pile 5 minutes later, with no sign that she needed to go again at all. I completely understand your frustration and feeling of "What have I done? I can't do this anymore!"
If it really comes down to it and you just cannot have this in your life, you do what is right for you. Don't let guilt tear you up. Not every boxer/owner situation works out.
I agree that the vet is the first place to start.
Good luck... and I truly hope that you aren't offended at my comment about your husband... but that is how I deal with stressful/difficult times... I find humor and get through it. I was hoping to do the same with someone else but I apologize if it was wrong for you.
Sincerely, KIM
Our Daisy will do the same thing - we'll take her outside, she'll poop and pee and then she'll go in the house again 5-10 minutes later (even if she hasn't eaten a thing!) It is very frustrating - I know. We have noticed though that she tends to do this if she thinks we are ignoring her, which in her eyes are the following:
1. Taking a shower (God forbid she can't see you for 15 min. or so...)
2. If we watch T.V. and are not petting her (she is the kind that always has to be touching you or you touching her)
3. If she wants to play and we are eating or busy w/ something else - she is the princess and must be played with when she wants to at all times.
We tend to call these her "pouty poops". She pouts when we don't give her attention 24/7.
Take notice the next time your little one has an accident - see where you were when it happened - it may be another case of a "pouty poop"!
Hope this helps - good luck!
Natalie, John, and Daisy
1. Taking a shower (God forbid she can't see you for 15 min. or so...)
2. If we watch T.V. and are not petting her (she is the kind that always has to be touching you or you touching her)
3. If she wants to play and we are eating or busy w/ something else - she is the princess and must be played with when she wants to at all times.
We tend to call these her "pouty poops". She pouts when we don't give her attention 24/7.
Take notice the next time your little one has an accident - see where you were when it happened - it may be another case of a "pouty poop"!
Hope this helps - good luck!
Natalie, John, and Daisy
CoopersKeepR
Banned
Hi Jill:
I am so sorry to hear that you are having such a stressful time with your baby. Please don't giver her to a Rescue:( I know that your have reached your wits end but don't give up on her yet.
Is it possible that she is doing this so that she CAN stay tethered to you? They are awfully smart and maybe she has associated the bad potty behavior with staying by your side forever. The tether doesn't seem to be any incentive for her to stop - but it is punishment for you! I know it sounds crazy - but maybe she knows this.
It might be hard to do, but maybe you need to use the crate and some separation from you as a teaching tool. Also, when you do give her some freedom, you might want to use gates and keep her confined to smaller areas (within your site but not tied to you).
We have a fenced yard and I still walk my pup until he does all of his business. Then we play for at least 10 minutes - even in the snow (20 + inches so far) and cold (well below freezing). I keep a close eye on pads and ears (to keep from frostbite) but so far this is working and mistakes in the house are few and far between.
I am new to this myself so please forgive me if my thoughts don't sound reasonable.
Please keep us posted and I hope others share some ideas as well.
I am so sorry to hear that you are having such a stressful time with your baby. Please don't giver her to a Rescue:( I know that your have reached your wits end but don't give up on her yet.
Is it possible that she is doing this so that she CAN stay tethered to you? They are awfully smart and maybe she has associated the bad potty behavior with staying by your side forever. The tether doesn't seem to be any incentive for her to stop - but it is punishment for you! I know it sounds crazy - but maybe she knows this.
It might be hard to do, but maybe you need to use the crate and some separation from you as a teaching tool. Also, when you do give her some freedom, you might want to use gates and keep her confined to smaller areas (within your site but not tied to you).
We have a fenced yard and I still walk my pup until he does all of his business. Then we play for at least 10 minutes - even in the snow (20 + inches so far) and cold (well below freezing). I keep a close eye on pads and ears (to keep from frostbite) but so far this is working and mistakes in the house are few and far between.
I am new to this myself so please forgive me if my thoughts don't sound reasonable.
Please keep us posted and I hope others share some ideas as well.
MyBabyBoxer
Boxer Buddy
Hi Jill, Im glad to see I am not the only one having this problem. My girl just turned one year and I am still having problems with her. She rarely poops in the house, but always has pee pee accidents. I have tried everything from taking her out 10 times a day to praising her continously. I am not going to have her tied up to me when Im home all day long. When she is out, I do keep my eye on her and rarely let her out my sight. I think if I had her tied to me she would probably pull my arm out of socket. She holds it all night, at least 8 hours and can hodl it in her crate when Im at work, therefore this leads me to believe that it is a behavioral problem. I have read the "Culture Clash" and have had no progress. Sometimes my girl will pee right in front of me. She knows she did wrong because after she will run and hide. She gives me no sign whatsoever that she has to go, thats what the problem is for me, no whining, barking, going by the door, NOTHING. Is this the problem for you too? I love my dog to death and would never give her up for anything. Im hoping she will grow out of this stage. Until then I will just have to keep dealing with it. Dont lose hope on your baby. I havent. Would you give your child up if they continued to wet the bed?
ColleenAus
Super Boxer
Hi Jill
I too am sorry that you have to go through this - maybe we could try to help you if you tell us from the start how you began to toilet trian her? - was she ever just left inside to do what she likes while you worked? i ask this due to the fact that i got my pup when she was 5 1/2 weeks - and too little to be outside so i created her own bedroom - vinyl floor and all - and she was in this room until she was about hrmmm 3 months old - and then she was in her run for the most of the time - but now when we arent looking she will go to this room - where we have newly laid carpet and pee on the floor - just because she realises that she was allowed to do this when she was little - this doesnt happen all the time but enough to keep us on our toes.... MY point is - has she been allowed a space in the house where this behaviour was acceptable - even when she was little?
i know this is hard for you - and VERY embarressing - but its reallty not bad enough for you to think about getting rid of her! specialy because i think that you reallllllllllly dont want to do such a thing - if you did you wouldnt be here asking for advise - she would already be gone....
-Colly
I too am sorry that you have to go through this - maybe we could try to help you if you tell us from the start how you began to toilet trian her? - was she ever just left inside to do what she likes while you worked? i ask this due to the fact that i got my pup when she was 5 1/2 weeks - and too little to be outside so i created her own bedroom - vinyl floor and all - and she was in this room until she was about hrmmm 3 months old - and then she was in her run for the most of the time - but now when we arent looking she will go to this room - where we have newly laid carpet and pee on the floor - just because she realises that she was allowed to do this when she was little - this doesnt happen all the time but enough to keep us on our toes.... MY point is - has she been allowed a space in the house where this behaviour was acceptable - even when she was little?
i know this is hard for you - and VERY embarressing - but its reallty not bad enough for you to think about getting rid of her! specialy because i think that you reallllllllllly dont want to do such a thing - if you did you wouldnt be here asking for advise - she would already be gone....
-Colly
Hi Jill
Are you absolutely positive it couldn't be you other dog? How thoroughly have you cleaned the carpet? You need to make sure that all traces of the smell are you removed. If there is even the slightest smell of urine there she will think it's okay to pee there. I understand that Natures Miracle works well.
The only thing that I can see that you are doing wrong is taking her over to a puddle to yell at her. That really doesn't do any good. She is picking up her attitude from you. Dogs are very perceptive and she know that you are mad at her. Unless you catch her in that act, just clean it up and it is a good idea not to let her watch you do it. Put her in her crate or in another room. Sometimes it can be an attention getting exercise on the dogs part and you want to make sure that she doesn't get any.
Remember praise, praise, and praise some more when goes outside and giving yummy treats would be a good idea too. I would make sure that is the only time that she gets treats until she is housetrained.
Don't give up! Eventually Bexx will get, really she will.
Take care,
Jan
Are you absolutely positive it couldn't be you other dog? How thoroughly have you cleaned the carpet? You need to make sure that all traces of the smell are you removed. If there is even the slightest smell of urine there she will think it's okay to pee there. I understand that Natures Miracle works well.
The only thing that I can see that you are doing wrong is taking her over to a puddle to yell at her. That really doesn't do any good. She is picking up her attitude from you. Dogs are very perceptive and she know that you are mad at her. Unless you catch her in that act, just clean it up and it is a good idea not to let her watch you do it. Put her in her crate or in another room. Sometimes it can be an attention getting exercise on the dogs part and you want to make sure that she doesn't get any.
Remember praise, praise, and praise some more when goes outside and giving yummy treats would be a good idea too. I would make sure that is the only time that she gets treats until she is housetrained.
Don't give up! Eventually Bexx will get, really she will.
Take care,
Jan
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Hemingway
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Hopefully this will get better. If you DO decide to give your dog up, make sure she goes to a great place. Once you have reached your limit you will know. I get the feeling some others on here are trying to shame you into making a decision to keep your dog (i.e. Would you give up your kid if they continued to wet the bed). There is a HUGE difference. Do what is best for you and your dog.
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frankokelly
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doggie door?
I built a dog door for my boy out of a piece of plywood, and a towel.
I havent had an accident since that day.
He goes on the back porch which is fenced. It saves me from getting up.
Good luck
I built a dog door for my boy out of a piece of plywood, and a towel.
I havent had an accident since that day.
He goes on the back porch which is fenced. It saves me from getting up.
Good luck
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