i have a five month old boxer pup who was diagnosed with coccidia about 6weeks ago. He was treated with albon for ten days. At that point everything seemed to clear up. Now his stool is looks like he could have it again. I plan on taking him to the vet. However i am worried that if it is coccidia that he will be treated with albon again. I have a read in a post on BW that treating a pup more that once with albon could cause kindney problems. So i was wondering if there was another medication i could suggest to the vet or maybe even a holistic treament that would work. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
coccidia???? and albon
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I think I have some info that will be usefull I believe the real medical term is.."Coccidiosis"
Coccidiosis
BASICS
OVERVIEW
• Coccidiosis is an enteric infection, traditionally associated with Isospora canis (dogs) and Isospora felis (cats) as potential pathogens. Other species of Isospora may be present. Strictly host specific, i.e., no cross-transmission. Eimeria spp are not parasitic for dogs, cats. Disease with a watery to mucoid diarrhea.
• Toxoplasma gondii in cats and Cryptosporidium parvum in neonatal pups and kittens are coccidians in a nontraditional sense.
• Toxoplasma in cats may cause clinical signs similar to Isospora with oocysts shed in the environment that may potentially cause a public health problem.
• Cryptosporidium is still being assessed as an acute life-threatening coccidiosis (cryptosporidiosis) of neonatal pups and kittens. Voluminous watery diarrhea is characteristic; autoinfection and continuing recycling within the lower intestinal tract results in a rapid loss of the mucosal lining.
SIGNALMENT
Dogs and cats
SIGNS
• Watery to mucoid, occasionally blood-tinged diarrhea
• Weak pups and kittens
CAUSES AND RISK FACTORS
• Infected dogs or cats contaminating environment with oocysts of Isospora spp or Cryptosporidium
• Stress
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DIAGNOSIS
DIFFERENTIAL DIAGNOSIS
Enteric viral infections
CBC/BIOCHEMISTRY/URINALYSIS
Usually normal. May be hemoconcentrated if dehydrated.
OTHER LABORATORY TESTS
• Fecal examination for oocysts; special staining such as acid fast for Cryptosporidium
• Isospora oocysts ovoid at 40 µm length; cysts of Toxoplasma 15 µm length; cysts of Cryptosporidium ~ 5 µm length
IMAGING N/A
OTHER DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURES N/A
TREATMENT
Inpatient if debilitated
MEDICATIONS
DRUGS AND FLUIDS
• Sulfadimethoxine at 55mg/kg PO on the first day, then 27.5mg/kg for 4 days or until dog is asymptomatic for Isospora
• On an extra-label use basis, albendazole (Valbazen) at 25 mg/kg PO q12h for 2 days or fenbendazole (Panacur) at 50 mg/kg PO q24h for 3 days for Isospora
• None known for Cryptosporidium although pyrimethamine has been used experimentally
• Fluid therapy usually necessary
CONTRAINDICATIONS/POSSIBLE INTERACTIONS None known
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FOLLOW-UP
Fecal examination for oocysts 12 weeks after treatment collapse.
MISCELLANEOUS
AGE RELATED FACTORS
More severe disease in young animals
SEE ALSO
Toxoplasmosis,
Cryptosporidiosis
Reference
Bowman DD. Georgi's parasitology for veterinarians. 6th ed. Philadelphia: WB Saunders, 1994.
Author Robert M. Corwin
Consulting Editor Brent D. Jones
Hope this can help you!!
I think I have some info that will be usefull I believe the real medical term is.."Coccidiosis"
Coccidiosis
BASICS
OVERVIEW
• Coccidiosis is an enteric infection, traditionally associated with Isospora canis (dogs) and Isospora felis (cats) as potential pathogens. Other species of Isospora may be present. Strictly host specific, i.e., no cross-transmission. Eimeria spp are not parasitic for dogs, cats. Disease with a watery to mucoid diarrhea.
• Toxoplasma gondii in cats and Cryptosporidium parvum in neonatal pups and kittens are coccidians in a nontraditional sense.
• Toxoplasma in cats may cause clinical signs similar to Isospora with oocysts shed in the environment that may potentially cause a public health problem.
• Cryptosporidium is still being assessed as an acute life-threatening coccidiosis (cryptosporidiosis) of neonatal pups and kittens. Voluminous watery diarrhea is characteristic; autoinfection and continuing recycling within the lower intestinal tract results in a rapid loss of the mucosal lining.
SIGNALMENT
Dogs and cats
SIGNS
• Watery to mucoid, occasionally blood-tinged diarrhea
• Weak pups and kittens
CAUSES AND RISK FACTORS
• Infected dogs or cats contaminating environment with oocysts of Isospora spp or Cryptosporidium
• Stress
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DIAGNOSIS
DIFFERENTIAL DIAGNOSIS
Enteric viral infections
CBC/BIOCHEMISTRY/URINALYSIS
Usually normal. May be hemoconcentrated if dehydrated.
OTHER LABORATORY TESTS
• Fecal examination for oocysts; special staining such as acid fast for Cryptosporidium
• Isospora oocysts ovoid at 40 µm length; cysts of Toxoplasma 15 µm length; cysts of Cryptosporidium ~ 5 µm length
IMAGING N/A
OTHER DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURES N/A
TREATMENT
Inpatient if debilitated
MEDICATIONS
DRUGS AND FLUIDS
• Sulfadimethoxine at 55mg/kg PO on the first day, then 27.5mg/kg for 4 days or until dog is asymptomatic for Isospora
• On an extra-label use basis, albendazole (Valbazen) at 25 mg/kg PO q12h for 2 days or fenbendazole (Panacur) at 50 mg/kg PO q24h for 3 days for Isospora
• None known for Cryptosporidium although pyrimethamine has been used experimentally
• Fluid therapy usually necessary
CONTRAINDICATIONS/POSSIBLE INTERACTIONS None known
Return to top
FOLLOW-UP
Fecal examination for oocysts 12 weeks after treatment collapse.
MISCELLANEOUS
AGE RELATED FACTORS
More severe disease in young animals
SEE ALSO
Toxoplasmosis,
Cryptosporidiosis
Reference
Bowman DD. Georgi's parasitology for veterinarians. 6th ed. Philadelphia: WB Saunders, 1994.
Author Robert M. Corwin
Consulting Editor Brent D. Jones
Hope this can help you!!
JulieM
Boxer Insane
I'm the one who posted about the two litters of pups that received a second course of Albon and suffered kidney failure.
There is another drug used to treat coccidia that supposedly does not cause this problem, I think it is Ampurinol or something like that. (It is listed as a coccidia treatment in Merck's manual, your vet should have one.)
There is another drug used to treat coccidia that supposedly does not cause this problem, I think it is Ampurinol or something like that. (It is listed as a coccidia treatment in Merck's manual, your vet should have one.)
boxer4
Boxer Insane
As some of you know I got Jake And Maggie from a not so great kennel, and they had round worms along with a mite infestion so it didn't surprise me that they both were found to have "oocysts" in the fecal exam, although the vet said it was not coccidia the treatment was the same, at first they treated them with Metronidazale for 5 days the stool seemed normal after that for about a week then it started to look wateryand runny with mucus in it again. They gave them Albon, again for another week they were normal and then back to the mess. Now they treated them with Panacur, so far so good it has been almost two weeks and the stool looks normal, they get a repeated dose in a couple of weeks. I didn't know about the problem with Albon, but if this comes back again I will ask for the Ampurinal, it did seem that the were hesitant to use the Albon.
Then came another scare, two weeks ago, Caesar had bloody stool, not just a little blood but mostly blood with a little stool, they problem was that both him and Brandi had gone to the back door ( this was at about 11PM) and then I saw the pile. Knowing that it wasn't a puppy and that the older dogs never go in the house I was in shock, I called the Vet as they are 24hrs and told them I wasn't sure which one it was but it was NOT the pups. The told me to keep a close eye and wait for them to go again, well of coures nothing more that long, long night, but the next morning they both went and they were both normal,so now I'm confused, I called the vet back and they told me sometimes stress can cause this and to just keep watch. Then 2 days later in the snow Caesar literaly sprayed the yard red, what a sight. :eek: We rushed him in and they tested his stool and probed him and couldn't find any reason for it, so again they said stress or he ate something that caused Colitis, but just to be on the safe side the started him on Metronidazole, he seems fine now, but being this wasn't my usual vet (on Vacation)
I am still worried, does this sound right to anybody else. I hate to make a fuss at the vet's office like I don't trust them I just worry a lot. What do you think?:confused:
Then came another scare, two weeks ago, Caesar had bloody stool, not just a little blood but mostly blood with a little stool, they problem was that both him and Brandi had gone to the back door ( this was at about 11PM) and then I saw the pile. Knowing that it wasn't a puppy and that the older dogs never go in the house I was in shock, I called the Vet as they are 24hrs and told them I wasn't sure which one it was but it was NOT the pups. The told me to keep a close eye and wait for them to go again, well of coures nothing more that long, long night, but the next morning they both went and they were both normal,so now I'm confused, I called the vet back and they told me sometimes stress can cause this and to just keep watch. Then 2 days later in the snow Caesar literaly sprayed the yard red, what a sight. :eek: We rushed him in and they tested his stool and probed him and couldn't find any reason for it, so again they said stress or he ate something that caused Colitis, but just to be on the safe side the started him on Metronidazole, he seems fine now, but being this wasn't my usual vet (on Vacation)
I am still worried, does this sound right to anybody else. I hate to make a fuss at the vet's office like I don't trust them I just worry a lot. What do you think?:confused:Debbie Magon
Boxer Pal
Coccidiosis is commonly deemed a problem in dirty or crowded kennels, but I have had it in one litter and suspected it in another some years later in a different property.
All my litters are kept under a strict hygene programme and no one touches new pups without first washing up and then only with the bitches full approval.
How did puppies from , clean surroundings, well fed and not over crowded get coccidiosis? Anyones guess but they did and not all the litter either. Just a few . Some were noticebly "flat" and some couldnt have cared less!
I always demand a sulphur based drug with an antibiotic booster added.
It works great and within a few days these pups are up and about, scoffing their special diet of chicken and rice and everyones a happy camper.
The drug here is called scourban or similar. Many vets poo foo it and say its too old fashioned, but its always worked for me and many other "old" breeders!
As coccidiosis is self limiting, this means it usually will clear up as soon as the pup developes a resistance to it, it makes one wonder if it is not indeed present all the time, but affects just a few pups that may have a slightly weaker immune system operating?
All my litters are kept under a strict hygene programme and no one touches new pups without first washing up and then only with the bitches full approval.
How did puppies from , clean surroundings, well fed and not over crowded get coccidiosis? Anyones guess but they did and not all the litter either. Just a few . Some were noticebly "flat" and some couldnt have cared less!
I always demand a sulphur based drug with an antibiotic booster added.
It works great and within a few days these pups are up and about, scoffing their special diet of chicken and rice and everyones a happy camper.
The drug here is called scourban or similar. Many vets poo foo it and say its too old fashioned, but its always worked for me and many other "old" breeders!
As coccidiosis is self limiting, this means it usually will clear up as soon as the pup developes a resistance to it, it makes one wonder if it is not indeed present all the time, but affects just a few pups that may have a slightly weaker immune system operating?
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