There are no laws relating to the sale of whites
Often there are no laws relating to the breeding and sale of dogs at all (beyond welfare). Only ethics to guide breeders...Breeding ???
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There are no laws relating to the sale of whites
Often there are no laws relating to the breeding and sale of dogs at all (beyond welfare). Only ethics to guide breeders...
JulieM
Boxer Insane
The revised Code of Ethics (US) states that breeders may charge a *refundable* spay/neuter deposit, and veterinary expenses *directly related* to that puppy. Really expenses for the dam wouldn't fall into that category unless it's a singleton litter with one white puppy.
More importantly, though, the COE no longer lists selling a white puppy as an infraction - so those breeders who choose to treat whites as equal to their colored pet littermates are not, technically, in violation of the COE. (It is up to the buyer, of course, to determine whether a breeder actually is charging what they are for whites due to civil disobedience.)
There is a Code of Conduct in the UK, which I believe these days allows white puppies to be sold, but without registration or pedigree. In Canada, white puppies can be sold but must be tattooed or microchipped, and must be on a spay/neuter contract (technically, this surgery is to be done before the pups are sold).
More importantly, though, the COE no longer lists selling a white puppy as an infraction - so those breeders who choose to treat whites as equal to their colored pet littermates are not, technically, in violation of the COE. (It is up to the buyer, of course, to determine whether a breeder actually is charging what they are for whites due to civil disobedience.)
There is a Code of Conduct in the UK, which I believe these days allows white puppies to be sold, but without registration or pedigree. In Canada, white puppies can be sold but must be tattooed or microchipped, and must be on a spay/neuter contract (technically, this surgery is to be done before the pups are sold).
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Or at least, not specifically. But then, the set up of the governing body for the boxer breed is entirely different between US and UK. The US has the American Boxer Club - to which membership is by invitation. In the UK, the governing body for all breeds is the Kennel Club which, like breed clubs, has open membership. There are all sorts of differences around registration of dogs also.
The KC does have a code of ethics - but that focuses on health and wellbeing issues, including those detrimental to the breed. One would thus be in breach of the COE if whites were used for breeding (detrimental to breed) or if a white pup was misrepresented to a buyer (e.g. as being usable for breeding, or "rare"). But there's nothing there that suggests what price they might be sold at. That it's lower really boils down to convention.
Or at least, not specifically. But then, the set up of the governing body for the boxer breed is entirely different between US and UK. The US has the American Boxer Club - to which membership is by invitation. In the UK, the governing body for all breeds is the Kennel Club which, like breed clubs, has open membership. There are all sorts of differences around registration of dogs also. The KC does have a code of ethics - but that focuses on health and wellbeing issues, including those detrimental to the breed. One would thus be in breach of the COE if whites were used for breeding (detrimental to breed) or if a white pup was misrepresented to a buyer (e.g. as being usable for breeding, or "rare"). But there's nothing there that suggests what price they might be sold at. That it's lower really boils down to convention.
k9ma
Boxer Booster
Just wanted to add another aspect that needs to be thoroughly evaluated (ie: by a qualified independent party) in this breed: Temperament & Work/trian-ability. Not sure why this criteria is not stressed as much as conformation. I like to see breeders of working group dogs involved in working endeavors. Even AKC performance events can be valuable tools when it comes to assessing a dogs true character & temperament. I am in the veterinary field and see too many nervous, shy, and fear aggressive large breed dogs.
If I were breeding dogs, I would also take other factors into consideration. I would breed for an all around “vigorous” dog, eliminating dogs with overly sensitive digestive systems, skin issues, separation anxiety (which to me is a symptom of weakness in temperament), pickiness, and those whom were runts or did not thrive at birth from my breeding program. These are all important indicators of overall health and should be included right along with orhto & heart certs as things to look at before you breed.
If I were breeding dogs, I would also take other factors into consideration. I would breed for an all around “vigorous” dog, eliminating dogs with overly sensitive digestive systems, skin issues, separation anxiety (which to me is a symptom of weakness in temperament), pickiness, and those whom were runts or did not thrive at birth from my breeding program. These are all important indicators of overall health and should be included right along with orhto & heart certs as things to look at before you breed.
Kerry Jane
Super Boxer
I agree with you totally. I think that health, temperament and structure are all equally important.
boxersrbest
Boxer Booster
As I am not into breeding, I don't typically reply to these threads. However, I wanted to add a comment to Julie M's reply. "In Canada, white puppies can be sold but must be tattooed or microchipped, and must be on a spay/neuter contract (technically, this surgery is to be done before the pups are sold)." I recently ran across a woman who purposely breeds her white bitch. She stated that the pups could all be registered, their litters could be registered and any fawn or brindle pups from the breedings could be shown in confirmation. As I did not believe this, I called the CKC. I was informed that the breeder was correct. The CKC rep stated that any pup from registered parents can be registered and can be bred and their litters registered. I pointed out that white boxers do not conform to the breed standard and was told that did not matter. This seems to be contradictory to your information JulieM. Was the rep wrong? If so, some education seems to be necessary at CKC.
k9ma
Boxer Booster
I know that in America any "regulations" are put in place by an individual breed clubs code of ethics. Registeries, like the AKC, enforce nothing. They are only there to register dogs, not oversee the responsible breeding and selling of animals. I would imagine that it is the same in Canada.
JulieM
Boxer Insane
Yes, sorry, I should have specified. The restriction in Canada regarding spay/neuter of whites is in the Boxer Club of Canada's Code of Ethics; breeders who are not following the Code can (and, as you've seen, do) sell white puppies without spay/neuter or a non-breeding agreement.
boxersrbest
Boxer Booster
Thanks for clarifying that JulieM. It is unfortunate that breeders do not have to conform to both. It would probably make a huge difference.
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