adeinert
Boxer Insane
Re: Disagree with alot of the article....
Dogs purchased through newspapers are not quality. They aren't "bad" dogs, just poor quality. It is just further supporting the ignorant people filling our shelters with homeless dogs headed for euthanasia. Sure, some look like a boxer but do not have the bloodlines and health to reproduce that. Everything in those articles reflect what I see day in and day out as a rescuer. Almost 400 "purebred" boxers came through our rescue in the year 2003 alone. I see A LOT of byb boxers. Many of our boxers are from BYB's. I haven't met a byb yet that will take back a dog or keep in touch with each dog to follow it's health history. Professional breeders keep in touch with each dog and keep track of each offspring's health. I recall an incident of a boxer coming into rescue with a jaw-dropping pedigree. We called the breeders across the country who were stunned that they had the wool pulled over their eyes- a rarity, and immediately wanted to know how to get the boxer back. As fate had it, a rescue volunteer who loves the sport of dog showing took him in as her love and pet. She is close with the breeders like most owners of well bred dogs. If we would call these byb's we would get a "click" or an apathetic comment. Many boxers besides those 400 were adopted out from shelters this year, I can tell you that the BYBreeders didn't come down to the shelter to pick up the dog, their responsibility ends when the cash hits their hands. And truly $500 is nothing to spend. We have many byb boxers turned in under a year, very shortly after the $500 was spent on the dog. BYB's thrive on people who view dogs as possessions and therefore the dogs become disposable.
I could tell hundreds of tales of experiences with these byb's through rescue and they are exactly how the article depicts them. But more importantly, I spend every free moment rescuing the boxers they are overbreeding and not looking out for. I see these backyard breeders as a curse on the breed from a rescuer's standpoint.
And as for the beauty of a dog to the public, I have owned rescue dogs that stop traffic every day and receive the repeated comments on if I will breed him to theirs, save a puppy, do I show, etc. All that tells me is that most people are ignorant of what it takes to produce quality offspring. Just because my last boxer had "perfect" markings (you don't breed for markings) and was put together really well doesn't mean he would produce puppies that looked like him or that were healthy. It is truly a joy to own a stunning boxer. It is a greater honor to know better than to breed that dog just because it turns heads.
So these articles truly reflect real life here in the "trenches" of boxer rescue. When I read articles given titles such as: How to tell if you're a backyard breeder, they all ring true of the mom and pop breeders trying to make excuses for breeding dogs that have no business being bred. When I read these articles it seems as plain as day because I see it all the time. I have talked to byb's when they call to turn in dogs. It is amazing just how little they know about breeding and the boxer breed. Most honestly think if you take two dogs with akc papers or two boxers who look pretty you'll get a good litter. This kills me! I'd die laughing if it wasn't so pathetically sad. Another common strain with them is: the bigger the better. And let's face it, have you ever seen a boxer pup that wasn't cute? Even the pet shop boxers are cute and our local pet shop is known for little flashy fawn pups that are so cute and grow up to have these long muzzles which could be classified as mixes to some.
I wish everyone came down into the "trenches" of boxer rescue and shelters for a bit and could see the truth plain as day. Thankfully, someone took the time to share some of the facts in those articles. So, rescuers also want the breeding to be left up to the professionals who know how to pick matings and health testing. From breeders I know who health test and produce quality boxers the prices don't differ too much from byb's and sometimes less than pet stores. What does differ is that the professional breeders are pouring in money, heart, and soul to better the breed. They can give health guarantees of up to five years because they know what they are breeding. Puppy shops and byb's really don't put anything into the pups. And try calling them with health concerns.
From what I have read, there are countries that limit the dogs bred. I can only imagine that they don't have almost 400 dogs coming into rescue in one state or boxers dying at such young ages from genetic diseases.
Breeding is more than mating. A quality dog is more than just pretty.
Ashlie
owned by three beautiful, rescued boxers all spayed and neutered
www.flbr.org
Originally posted by jakester
Sorry to buck the trend but I disagree with much of what the article stated. First off, I don't care for the general widescoped label 'Backyard Breeders'.
It just bothers me that people have this preconceived idea that if you bought your boxer from a local person via the newspaper, you've bought a BAD dog from a 'BYB'. The article then eludes to the fact that many dogs bought from BYB's are turned into shelters and left without food,etc...etc.. You explain to me how the propensity of this happening to buying a dog from someone locally to some notable breeder changes the likelihood of someone keeping the dog? In case you didn't realize it, boxers that are sold by BYB's arn't exactly free. Most people that plan on spending over $500 for an animal have every intention on keeping that dog for a lifetime and plan on doing whatever it takes to make a loving pet for years to come.
However my current boxer (Jake) that was bought from a local person in my area is much closer to the boxer standard. I can't take him anywhere without getting mobbed with compliments about how gorgeous he is. After seeing him, I fell in love and knew he had the BOXER look
Dogs purchased through newspapers are not quality. They aren't "bad" dogs, just poor quality. It is just further supporting the ignorant people filling our shelters with homeless dogs headed for euthanasia. Sure, some look like a boxer but do not have the bloodlines and health to reproduce that. Everything in those articles reflect what I see day in and day out as a rescuer. Almost 400 "purebred" boxers came through our rescue in the year 2003 alone. I see A LOT of byb boxers. Many of our boxers are from BYB's. I haven't met a byb yet that will take back a dog or keep in touch with each dog to follow it's health history. Professional breeders keep in touch with each dog and keep track of each offspring's health. I recall an incident of a boxer coming into rescue with a jaw-dropping pedigree. We called the breeders across the country who were stunned that they had the wool pulled over their eyes- a rarity, and immediately wanted to know how to get the boxer back. As fate had it, a rescue volunteer who loves the sport of dog showing took him in as her love and pet. She is close with the breeders like most owners of well bred dogs. If we would call these byb's we would get a "click" or an apathetic comment. Many boxers besides those 400 were adopted out from shelters this year, I can tell you that the BYBreeders didn't come down to the shelter to pick up the dog, their responsibility ends when the cash hits their hands. And truly $500 is nothing to spend. We have many byb boxers turned in under a year, very shortly after the $500 was spent on the dog. BYB's thrive on people who view dogs as possessions and therefore the dogs become disposable.
I could tell hundreds of tales of experiences with these byb's through rescue and they are exactly how the article depicts them. But more importantly, I spend every free moment rescuing the boxers they are overbreeding and not looking out for. I see these backyard breeders as a curse on the breed from a rescuer's standpoint.
And as for the beauty of a dog to the public, I have owned rescue dogs that stop traffic every day and receive the repeated comments on if I will breed him to theirs, save a puppy, do I show, etc. All that tells me is that most people are ignorant of what it takes to produce quality offspring. Just because my last boxer had "perfect" markings (you don't breed for markings) and was put together really well doesn't mean he would produce puppies that looked like him or that were healthy. It is truly a joy to own a stunning boxer. It is a greater honor to know better than to breed that dog just because it turns heads.
So these articles truly reflect real life here in the "trenches" of boxer rescue. When I read articles given titles such as: How to tell if you're a backyard breeder, they all ring true of the mom and pop breeders trying to make excuses for breeding dogs that have no business being bred. When I read these articles it seems as plain as day because I see it all the time. I have talked to byb's when they call to turn in dogs. It is amazing just how little they know about breeding and the boxer breed. Most honestly think if you take two dogs with akc papers or two boxers who look pretty you'll get a good litter. This kills me! I'd die laughing if it wasn't so pathetically sad. Another common strain with them is: the bigger the better. And let's face it, have you ever seen a boxer pup that wasn't cute? Even the pet shop boxers are cute and our local pet shop is known for little flashy fawn pups that are so cute and grow up to have these long muzzles which could be classified as mixes to some.
I wish everyone came down into the "trenches" of boxer rescue and shelters for a bit and could see the truth plain as day. Thankfully, someone took the time to share some of the facts in those articles. So, rescuers also want the breeding to be left up to the professionals who know how to pick matings and health testing. From breeders I know who health test and produce quality boxers the prices don't differ too much from byb's and sometimes less than pet stores. What does differ is that the professional breeders are pouring in money, heart, and soul to better the breed. They can give health guarantees of up to five years because they know what they are breeding. Puppy shops and byb's really don't put anything into the pups. And try calling them with health concerns.
From what I have read, there are countries that limit the dogs bred. I can only imagine that they don't have almost 400 dogs coming into rescue in one state or boxers dying at such young ages from genetic diseases.
Breeding is more than mating. A quality dog is more than just pretty.
Ashlie
owned by three beautiful, rescued boxers all spayed and neutered
www.flbr.org
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