We paid $1000 for Daisy,in august 2005, and she is worth every penny. She came from a litter of two. The couple who sold her to us, had her practically trained, and socialized perfectly. She is active but is contented as well. We really lucked out. We also have a female 8 year old border collie mix, or intelligent mutt, and they get along fine.
$800.00?????whoh!!!!!
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freckledcat
Boxer Booster
We paid 600$ Cnd. for Jewel from my dads friend (sadly now that I know more, I think she would be considered a BYB, but she truly loved her dogs and the pups were registered....)
We are paying 1200 Cnd. for Fiona and the breeder has said she charged us the wrong amount and it should have been $1600 Cnd. (she is honouring our oiginal price). THis doesn't seem like a lot to me as her bitch is a Champion as is the stud and she does all the health testing and vet checks. Her dogs are so well tempered and healthy, not to mention friendly that we didn't even think twice about the price.
We are paying 1200 Cnd. for Fiona and the breeder has said she charged us the wrong amount and it should have been $1600 Cnd. (she is honouring our oiginal price). THis doesn't seem like a lot to me as her bitch is a Champion as is the stud and she does all the health testing and vet checks. Her dogs are so well tempered and healthy, not to mention friendly that we didn't even think twice about the price.
Well it seems everyone has their own idea of a breeder and our dog is continental listed. We dont ever plan on breeding just for the money as it is not the purpose of breeding. Now i do know that they are very good people and i trust them on what thay have told me and i cant say otherwise. Ours did have a health check and we were also provided with a shots record and the vet that she uses. I just need to reconfirm with the sire owner if she has had his hips checked. Some may say this is too late but none the less we love our boxer and with the final check it will let us know if we can breed him or not. CKC OR AKC does not matter to us as we have a great addition to our family.
Not on this site, they don't. Or at least, not when they're contemplating breeding themselves. Responsible doesn't revolve around registries. I revolves around health screening and showing the dog to find out whether or not it's a breed-worthy specimen in the first place.bremle said:
www.boxerworld.com/health_testing It's not just about hip dysplasia either - there are more serious diseases than that that have to be screened for also. A "health check" is nothing. You need the hard copies of the heart, hip, and thyroid tests (eyes would be nice also).
furrykidmom
Completely Boxer Crazy
Took a long time...
It took us six months to find a responsible breeder.
We lost our Boxer boy at age six to cancer. It was the most devastating loss we ever had. We had only had him for a little over five years. Tig was a rescue and we did not know his family history. After his loss, we knew we wanted another Boxer but were not willing to take the risk of losing a dog again at such a young age. We know that there are not any guarentees that we will not lose this one at a young age but we wanted to do our best to bring as healthy of a boy home as we could.
After searching for six months we finally found breeder that did Holter monitoring, EKG's and thyroid testing. There is an uncle in the line that is positive for cancer but he was the only one. He also comes from champion lines and had all the appropriate paperwork.
Don't be fooled by AKC papers. A breeder once told me that they could AKC register a chair. Look for responsible breeding and testing, the rest should fall into place.
Price was not the issue for us, health was the bottom line for us.
We passed on a lot of pups because we were looking for someone that had the same ideals as us. "Betterment of the breed."
It took us six months to find a responsible breeder.
We lost our Boxer boy at age six to cancer. It was the most devastating loss we ever had. We had only had him for a little over five years. Tig was a rescue and we did not know his family history. After his loss, we knew we wanted another Boxer but were not willing to take the risk of losing a dog again at such a young age. We know that there are not any guarentees that we will not lose this one at a young age but we wanted to do our best to bring as healthy of a boy home as we could.
After searching for six months we finally found breeder that did Holter monitoring, EKG's and thyroid testing. There is an uncle in the line that is positive for cancer but he was the only one. He also comes from champion lines and had all the appropriate paperwork.
Don't be fooled by AKC papers. A breeder once told me that they could AKC register a chair. Look for responsible breeding and testing, the rest should fall into place.
Price was not the issue for us, health was the bottom line for us.
We passed on a lot of pups because we were looking for someone that had the same ideals as us. "Betterment of the breed."
We had been looking at getting a boxer pup for about 2 years and all the breeders that we have talked to want you to sign some stupid contract saying that you wont breed the animal or you have to have a prepaid reciept saying that you are getting the animal spayed. I'm sorry but i'm not going to pay 700.00 or more for you to tell me what i can and can not do with my dog. As far as health testing goes i totally agree, you should make sure it has been done. No other way around it
Draymia
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bremle said:
Hmmmm, since I am one of the very few breeders in this area, I must object to this. I spend a great deal of money health testing my dogs yearly. I breed my dogs rarely. I breed when I want to combine a new bloodline with mine and I want to continue my showing hobby. I have had many "breeders" or to be more accurate "BYB's" wishing to purchase one of my pups in order for them to introduce some better bloodlines. They simply want to make more money from of their pups, not because they care about the breed. Even though many of these people do love their dogs, they do not care about future of the Boxer. This is why I require a spay/neuter contract on every pet puppy sold. I do this for the love of the breed. I sell my pups to be loving pets, not a money making machine. I also do not want someone to take my 30+ years of careful breeding and ruin it by breeding it to a poor specimen that has not had any health testing.
We have a major overpopulation problem in the United States and our breed rescues are being overwhelmed with abandoned and poorly bred boxers. People who breed just an occasional litter for a few bucks contribute to this tragedy and are no better than a puppy mill.
Why are these people and several others in the Tri-Cities newspaper using the CKC for registering their puppies. Obviously their boxers are not AKC registered or possibly one of the parents or grandparents are not purebred. AKC in not perfect, but with the CKC, you just pay your fee and can register anything. For example-cockapoos? Yes they can be CKC registered but are simply a cute little mutt.
So before you knock sincere breeders for not letting you buy a pup that can be bred, please look at the entire picture. The boxer breed is in real trouble, both from a lack of health testing and overpopulation.
furrykidmom
Completely Boxer Crazy
I have to agree with the breeder on this one. We bought a pet quality Boxer from champion lines. We paid almost a thousand dollars and had no qualms about signing the agreement.
We also have a rescue female that we also signed a contract to have spayed.
I have no desire to breed, nor do I have the money, time or the experience. I strongly disagree with people who buy from champion lines and then breed with another neighborhood Boxer because they think that he is handsome or has a great personality. There is much more involved in breeding than that. I am not saying that this is everyone's intention. But we met a lot of BYB's in our search. They think that they have good intentions and in their mind they do but they are not bettering the breed and they are not responsible breeders. We watched people come in to see a litter while we were seeing the litter. The people picked out a pup, paid for it and left. They were never asked their intentions for the pup, they were not asked about vet care, environment, home life etc.. To me, this is irresponsible breeding.
If someone intends to start breeding, they need to do their homework, line up the money for testing, be prepared to wait two years to breed their dam and find a breeder that is willing to mentor you with one of their pups. If you are not willing to do this then you need to sign a spay/neuter contract.
I do not understand why people are so unwilling to sign. I have worked in shelters and with rescues. The numbers of dogs that are put down are staggering. You cannot save them all and you cannot place them all. It is a sad fact. The best you can do is educate the public on the importance of spaying/neutering their dogs and work your butt off to place the ones in the shelter into responsible caring homes.
I am off my soapbox now.
We also have a rescue female that we also signed a contract to have spayed.
I have no desire to breed, nor do I have the money, time or the experience. I strongly disagree with people who buy from champion lines and then breed with another neighborhood Boxer because they think that he is handsome or has a great personality. There is much more involved in breeding than that. I am not saying that this is everyone's intention. But we met a lot of BYB's in our search. They think that they have good intentions and in their mind they do but they are not bettering the breed and they are not responsible breeders. We watched people come in to see a litter while we were seeing the litter. The people picked out a pup, paid for it and left. They were never asked their intentions for the pup, they were not asked about vet care, environment, home life etc.. To me, this is irresponsible breeding.
If someone intends to start breeding, they need to do their homework, line up the money for testing, be prepared to wait two years to breed their dam and find a breeder that is willing to mentor you with one of their pups. If you are not willing to do this then you need to sign a spay/neuter contract.
I do not understand why people are so unwilling to sign. I have worked in shelters and with rescues. The numbers of dogs that are put down are staggering. You cannot save them all and you cannot place them all. It is a sad fact. The best you can do is educate the public on the importance of spaying/neutering their dogs and work your butt off to place the ones in the shelter into responsible caring homes.
I am off my soapbox now.
boxerxbabe
Boxer Booster
You can breed...if...
*steps up on the soapbox*
I think that if you have problems with signing a form saying you will have your pet spayed or neutered, it is no longer about you and your freedom but about you wanting to create more puppies...and possibly become a BYB.
If you want to breed then you can....AFTER you: get a show quality puppy from Champion parents (not technically a requirement I know but the show quality part I think is), show that puppy to its championship (once again not technically a requirement but if not that then they should have the puppy evaluated by a proffesional...liek a judge), do all the recommended tests on your dog (hips heart thyroid etc), find a responsible knowledgable breeder to be your mentor, do all proper reserach on breeding, assist with and watch the birth of a litter of puppies to get hands on experience, and then finally...find a suitable match for your dog..if he has flaws then teh bitch should be outstanding in the places where he has flaws, make sure the other dog or bitch has done all the testing and has prefferably been shown to a champion title or has been looked at by a judge or other proffessional... and then breed. Oh yeah and make sure you have plenty of money to do all this and don't expect to be making much if any profit...possibly even a loss.
Ok so I know I may have left out some stuff... but thats why I am not a breeder and probably never will be...unless I win the lottery...and do all the things listed above. Its hard enough breeding horses and they don't have half the genetic problems dogs do. Ok stepping off the box now....by the way...you breeders out there... man good job you guys do a lot of work and I know you don't make any money from it... you may even lose money on it... but you guys do it to better the breed and that takes dedication, time, oh and money
Keep up the good work
*steps up on the soapbox*
I think that if you have problems with signing a form saying you will have your pet spayed or neutered, it is no longer about you and your freedom but about you wanting to create more puppies...and possibly become a BYB.
If you want to breed then you can....AFTER you: get a show quality puppy from Champion parents (not technically a requirement I know but the show quality part I think is), show that puppy to its championship (once again not technically a requirement but if not that then they should have the puppy evaluated by a proffesional...liek a judge), do all the recommended tests on your dog (hips heart thyroid etc), find a responsible knowledgable breeder to be your mentor, do all proper reserach on breeding, assist with and watch the birth of a litter of puppies to get hands on experience, and then finally...find a suitable match for your dog..if he has flaws then teh bitch should be outstanding in the places where he has flaws, make sure the other dog or bitch has done all the testing and has prefferably been shown to a champion title or has been looked at by a judge or other proffessional... and then breed. Oh yeah and make sure you have plenty of money to do all this and don't expect to be making much if any profit...possibly even a loss.
Ok so I know I may have left out some stuff... but thats why I am not a breeder and probably never will be...unless I win the lottery...and do all the things listed above. Its hard enough breeding horses and they don't have half the genetic problems dogs do. Ok stepping off the box now....by the way...you breeders out there... man good job you guys do a lot of work and I know you don't make any money from it... you may even lose money on it... but you guys do it to better the breed and that takes dedication, time, oh and money
Keep up the good work
Zero_Cool
Boxer Booster
We paid $550 for Zero. I'm still not certain if the people we got him from were BYB or not... We got Zero before I discovered Boxerworld.
However, last week I did email the breeders and asked them if they had health testing done. And she said she did when they were younger, and she has had the mom and dad for quite sometime and they had nothing wrong with them. And when I asked her how often she bred, she said she used 2 females, and would only breed them once ever year and a half to two years. I haven't really looked at the breeding section of this site, since I've never wanted to breed, but that sounded good.
And so far Zero has been pretty healthy.... just regular puppy issues like growing pains and whatnot.... nothing serious!
However, last week I did email the breeders and asked them if they had health testing done. And she said she did when they were younger, and she has had the mom and dad for quite sometime and they had nothing wrong with them. And when I asked her how often she bred, she said she used 2 females, and would only breed them once ever year and a half to two years. I haven't really looked at the breeding section of this site, since I've never wanted to breed, but that sounded good.
And so far Zero has been pretty healthy.... just regular puppy issues like growing pains and whatnot.... nothing serious!
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