2 pups seizure update - long, sorry

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Kirene

Boxer Pal
Hey all, I just wanted to update you all on our seizure problem. Our pups are now 13 weeks old.

Truvie has had a total of 3 seizures. They were a week or more apart and she has not had one in 10 days. It seem as though she's going to be fine. She had 2 sets of blood tests, they were normal except that she was slightly enemic. She's growing normally, playing fine, and eating good.

Maddy has had roughly 12 seizures. I have a log of them at home but I don't remember the exact count. She started having 1 a day, then started progressing to 2 a day, and finally 3 in a day. They are pretty mild seizures and she usually comes out of it in 1 to 3 minutes followed by a 3-5 minute period of "looking drunk" then she is totally back to normal. Wednesday morning she had a seizure and she didn't come out of it and had to be rushed to the vet. She was given Valium and she finally came out of it. The vet kept her for the day, and ran a bile acid test which came back normal. She didn't have any more seizures while at the vet. We started phenobarbital that night. As soon as we walked through the door she had another seizure, and then another one at 1:00 am the next day.

Yesterday she did okay until 11:00 last night, she had another seizure and wouldn't come out of it so we took her to the vet and they had to give her valium again to get it under control. They kept her overnight and all day today. They increased the dosage of phenobarbital. They drew more blood to be sent off for more specific testing. I don't remember the names of the test. I won't find out the results until next week.

3 days ago she started "head bobbing", which was only happening after her seizures but now she has one that is almost constant.

I will be picking her up after work today and I'm so worried because I know as soon as we walk through the door she's going to have another seizure.

If the tests come back normal next week and she's still having seizures we will be going to OSU to get a cat scan, and possibly an EKG/EEG or whatever it's called.

I have scoured the internet trying to find answers and there is just so much information that I'm overwhelmed.

If any of your dogs have/are having seizures, please tell me what the diagnosis was.

The pups cannot get to any chemicals.
Our yard does not have chemicals on it.
We started feeding them hypoallergenic dog food on Wednesday.
We use pet safe cleaning products on the carpet and have avoided using any other chemicals in the house. We even use hypoallergenic detergent to wash our clothes and their bedding.
We removed a plant from the backyard believed to be toxic to dogs 2 weeks ago.

Food allergy?
Grass allergy?
Vaccination reaction?
Heart defect?
Brain defect?
Diabetes?

I'm so lost.

Thanks,

Ki
 

sycamore

Boxer Pal
Seizures

Hello, i'm new to this forum,only joined today, with reference to your seizure problem, i know it's a long shot and you may already have read about it, but thought this might just be worth a mention. A while back there was an article in one of my dog newspapers about a 'spore' nicknamed 'the unknown killer', what they know about it so far is that it is found in red meat, (mainly beef) and can affect a dog which has been fed on FRESH red meat. What i mean by 'fresh' is that the meat hasn't previously been frozen. The 'spore', (Neosporosis Caninum) was found in a Boxer dog, whos first symtoms were neurological. It affects the central nervous system, with symtoms such as staggering, head bobbing, fits etc., the dog died within a very short time.

I hope i haven't frightened you too much, it's just that when you mentioned head bobbing it reminded me of this article. I know that boxers are quite susceptable to these kind of conditions, but it seemed strange to me that you have the problem with two puppies at the same time.

For anyone else reading this, as far as i can tell it's OK to feed your dog red meat as long as it has been either frozen beforehand or if using fresh meat it should be well cooked first.
 

Mama_Zookeeper

Boxer Insane
WOW! I am clueless...but boy do you have my sympathy! Please know you are in my thoughts and prayers. I truly hope you will be able to find out what is going on with your babies!

Dora
 

lafsalot

Boxer Insane
Our Mya developed a seizure disorder following vaccination as a puppy. Phenobarbitol controlled it for a number of years until she suddenly developed cluster seizures (continuous head shaking much like you described, etc). Eventually, her seizures were controlled with potassium bromide.
You may want to avoid all flea control medications (ie program, frontline, etc) - they caused an exacerbation of symptoms in Mya.
Ketogenic diets are often prescribed for children with seizures that are difficult to control - you may want to consider it for your dogs. I imagine it is similar to the Atkin's diet. They are now marketing low carb diets for animals with diabetes.
I only wish I could be of more help. Hope your furbabies feel better soon. Please do keep me posted - Cathy
 

jaimie

Boxer Insane
I have seen that diet for children with seizures, the kid was actually eating a pat of butter! Everything is measured out on a scale so you really need to be in control of their treats, food, etc... This little boy had 30+ seizures a day and once the diet started it went to 0!

Did your dogs get their vaccinations on the same day? What kind of heartworm preventative are they on? A friend of my hubbys family had a dog with seizures from his Bordatella Vaccine, from what the vet thought.

I am sorry your babies & you have to go through this.

Take care!
 

Jan

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Make sure that they check their thyroid if they haven't already. Low blood sugar can cause seizures. :(
 

craZ4HERKIE

Boxer Insane
I am sorry I don't know a thing about seizures...I just wanted to let you know ya'll are in our thoughts and prayers...I hope both of your pups are ok!Please keep us posted.
 

Jags_Mommy

Boxer Booster
Wow...you have your hands full Kirene. While I don't have any further input on seizures I just want you to know we are thinking about you and wish your beautiful babies a quick diagnosis and a bright future.
Sending big boxer hugs and kisses from Jag. I hope mom gets some rest as well.
 
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