Talk to me about Gingival Hyperplasia

Tuff Love

Boxer Insane
Miss Thora is having the surgery done next week and I'm a little nervous because a newer (young) vet is doing the surgery (our reg vet wasn't available). I know this is a problem that comes back and it's going to cost me a small fortune, but I"m interested to hear how it went for anyone else's dog who had this performed.
 

Caney Creek

Boxer Insane
Both Caney and Creek had it done when they were having other bumps removed. It went just fine but it did grow back quickly for both of them. Within a year they both had a good bit of it again.

I think it's a fairly uncomplicated procedure as far as surgeries go, I'm sure the young vet will do just fine. :) Sending Thora lots of (((positive vibes))) that all goes well!
 

Tuff Love

Boxer Insane
Ahhhhh yuck... I was afraid of that :/ the procedure is going to cost a small fortune. She has a bump between the gums too so the vet suggested a cleaning, X-rays to make sure there's no deeper problems, and biopsies of the lump. Something to the tune of $1100.
 

Caney Creek

Boxer Insane
Ahhhhh yuck... I was afraid of that :/ the procedure is going to cost a small fortune. She has a bump between the gums too so the vet suggested a cleaning, X-rays to make sure there's no deeper problems, and biopsies of the lump. Something to the tune of $1100.
Holy cow that is quite a fortune. We didn't have any of the growths biopsied though, and no x rays either. I hope everything comes back ok.
 

Tuff Love

Boxer Insane
Yeah a good chunk of the cost is the x-rays ($250-ish) and biopsies ($200). The actual gingivectomy I think is around $150 for the procedure (not including anesthesia), $80 for blood work, and I forget the rest of the fees they nickel and dime you with... my vet is notoriously expensive but they are very flexible and have a lot of in-house resources. She said having the teeth cleaned was optional but we've never been good about brushing her teeth so I figured we owe it to her to have a real cleaning while she's under anyways. We have pet insurance but depending on how the vet writes everything up, they might not cover the cleaning.

Vet called late last night with the pre-op blood results. Alk. Phosphate levels are elevated and so is her cholesterol. Her Alk Phos. levels were elevated last year when she had bloods done as well. Liver levels are in normal range so not sure what's going on there. Thora has gained 7 or 8 pounds in the last few months since we got her tummy issues managed, so I explained that to the vet and suggested that could be the story with the cholesterol and promised to adjust her feeding accordingly. Surgery is scheduled for tomorrow. I'm a little nervous but hoping for the best. She has to get another blood test first thing to rule out anemia to make sure she can have the surgery. Vet said something about a clotting issue with her blood work but I was half asleep when she called.
 

Jan

Reasonable Moderator
Staff member
Sending lots of positive healing vibes your way. I hope everything goes well tomorrow.
 

Gatorblu

Boxer Insane
I hope everything went well. Three of my four boxers have had gh, and Arabella is the only one it come back on. As for the fourth boxer not having it, I just think it is because he is still young.

I paid around $400 for Arabella's last surgery. We did not have x-rays or cleaning. That was the surgery and the biopsy. She had her teeth cleaned from the previous procedure which had been about a year before. I don't understand the x-ray. GH is a soft tissue growth and I thought x-rays were not good at showing soft tissue. Unless they are thinking there is a problem with Thora's teeth, I don't see the need. I know I am saying this after the fact, but my computer is on the fritz and I can't check in often.

I hope Thora is recovering well. And that there is no repeat occurrence.
 

Tuff Love

Boxer Insane
Popping in with an update....

In regards to the xray Pam- my vet does it as protocol with any teeth cleaning and in this case they strongly urged it because of how much tissue had grown over some of the teeth to check for bone abnormalities. They wanted to rule out any kind of boney cancers because Thora's Alkaline Phosphate levels were a bit elevated and that can cause it. But back to the surgery... Poor Thora ended up needing some pretty heavy duty work done. For starters, she had gingival overgrowth on 1/4 of her teeth, so she required quite a bit of removal there. She had three nodules (or whatever they are) removed and sent for biopsy. But what I was NOT expecting, is that my dog is a shark. She had THREE extra teeth! Lol. They were completely covered by gum tissue. All of those teeth did not fit in her little mouth and the result was teeth basically sitting on top of each other. That compromised the root system and as a result some of her teeth were loose and had little to no rooting. So she had a handful of teeth removed just from that. To add insult to injury, she also had a chipped canine, which I did see but didn't realize that the nerve endings were exposed. That can mean lots of pain for Thora and it's an easy entry point for bacteria to get in, so she had to lose the canine :( She was under anesthesia for over 5 hours. The vet that did the majority of the work passed the torch to one of the senior vets to remove the canine and finish up and at that point she called me to get me up to speed and also informed us that there's a handful more teeth that are loose that she recommends having removed in a second surgery. She said they try not to keep animals under anesthesia for more than 4 hours if they can help it and since Thora was already exceeding that they did not want to risk it and remove the other teeth. It was after 9pm by the time we brought her home and she was extremely groggy and confused. I felt awful :/ DH and I both slept on the floor that night in a pile of blankets with her. She was pretty restless and neither of us slept very well. The morning after the surgery she was certainly a pitiful sight, but I was able to get her to eat a little soft food and take her meds. DH checked on her throughout the day since we both had to work. By the evening she was starting to show some life again and this morning she's doing pretty good :) She has a follow up in 2 weeks and at that point I'll get the low down on those other teeth and decide what to do. I'm not really in any hurry to put her through all that again unless it really needs to be done. I certainly don't want her to be in any kind of discomfort if the teeth are bad. I guess I have to give away all her deer antlers and get something a little softer for her to chew on. She's never been a big fan of nylabones.

I feel doubly bad because the day before the surgery I was talking online to an old friend who has a younger boxer who recently had ACL surgery. When I explained what Thora had he realized that his dog also has it... *eek!*
 
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