Pancreatitis - how do you know?

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Nicos mom

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How can you tell if your dog has pancreatitis? Nico shows no signs. BUt it's been three days since he ate that chicken carcass. Diarreah. Now, after two meals, no bowel movement at all. He is on two antibiotics for this. Are we overloading this poor boy's system? How can we tell about pancreatitis if he's playing and doing things normally? His bloodwork was all normal recently too, except LIPASE which was out of the stratosphere. We are nearing the end of our rope in trying to figure all this out and the stress/worry levels are really high now. Any thoughts? Thank you!
 
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lhsdavis

Boxer Booster
I know when my boxer got it about 2 years ago she was pretty lifeless, sleeping, not eating and no interest except just laying there and sleeping.
 

Angelika_23

Super Boxer
Hi,

When our Beau got pancreatitis he started with diarrhea then stopped pooping altogether. Then he started vomiting. I hope Nico doesn't have pancreatitis. When Beau had it, he had to stay at the hospital for a couple of days. Maybe you should have your vet look at him again, maybe do some bloodwork?

Good luck,
Angela
 

Nicos mom

Boxer Booster
Thanks for your thoughts. Nico had a nice, big bowel movement this morning. He seems normal at the moment, playing, eating fine. I think we'll continue to watch him very closely over the weekend and see how it goes. How is pancreatitis treated?
 

cantfindlog

Completely Boxer Crazy
Thanks for your thoughts. Nico had a nice, big bowel movement this morning. He seems normal at the moment, playing, eating fine. I think we'll continue to watch him very closely over the weekend and see how it goes. How is pancreatitis treated?

Leah had pancreatitis really bad two summers ago. We had just gotten home and all the sudden she just slumped over. Her gums were really pale and she was in pain. Belly area usually gets really sore and dogs will walk all hunched over.

I rushed her in and she was started on IV right away. She would have one bag of fluid followed by a bag of fluid that had I *think* Vitamin B in it. Usually food is with held for 48 hours or longer and then you start the dog back up with small bland meals for a couple of days until you build your way back up to normal food and feeding schedule. Most vets in house have a cPL (I think that is what it's called) snap test for pancreatitis. Most vets will send it off to Texas A&M for further testing. Leah's test results were off the charts. Scared the hell out of me because my other boxer Molly angelicon died of an acute bout of pancreatitis.

Leah also has a high lipase or amylase at any given time. Vet is not sure why. I keep Leah on a lower fat food and she only has lean meats such as chicken or turkey if I give her a treat. Three weeks ago she had blood drawn for surgery and one of those was high, but she is fine.

Leah had a second bout this past March but it wasn't off the charts. Again, she is not feed food high in fat. The vet and I think Leah is prone to stress induced pancreatitis. I thought that was weird but there are some articles on it. Because each time she had pancreatitis it was after a stressful situation for her.

So, I would say most vets have a protocol for how to treat pancreatitis, I guess it's up to the vet to decided based on the severity of the situation. The biggest thing is fluids and letting the pancreas rest so it doesn't have to work hard to by secreting the enzymes (?) needed to digest food.

Good luck, one day at a time.
 

MomtoMaggie

Boxer Booster
spec pLI

If Nico were mine, I would bring him in for a spec pLI. The lipase off the charts can be very indicative of pancreatitis and an acute flare up can be deadly. I would also have him on a low fat diet just in case. Sometimes vets use ultrasound, but this is only about 80% certain. Maggie had pancreatitis ruled out from a u/s back in Jan. When I finally learned more and had a spec pLI done, it was confirmed that she does have chronic pancreatitis. She had to go on a kidney diet and the higher fat really brought it out. I had to hospitalize again in April for it and have since put her on a 6% fat diet.

When you do full blood, it's only $20 to add on a spec pLI. It's not a bad idea for all boxer owners to add it on when doing full blood.

http://www.idexx.com/pubwebresource...new-tests-for-pancreatitis-clinicianbrief.pdf

Boxer hugs and kisses,

Heather, mom to
Maggie/boxer/63 lbs/11 yrs/ CKD, chronic pancreatitis, hypothyroidism, arthritis and newly diagnosed with adult onset epilepsy and likely IBD.
&
Gabby/boxer/ 42lbs/ 5 ½ mos/CaOx crystals and crazy puppy syndrome :)
Orange County, CA
 

Nicos mom

Boxer Booster
This is going to sound inane, but is Nature's variety raw pucks considered low fat? He's eating lamb at the moment. The problem is that he has allergies to a lot of foods that are in grain free, lower fat kibble, i.e. potatoes, wheat, beef, herring, whitefish, etc. So we are pretty much stuck with the raw and small amounts of Wellness protein and Avoderm Lamb & rice. These are pretty much staples. I have no idea how much fat he should have in a day.
Thoughts? Thanks so much everyone!
 

MomtoMaggie

Boxer Booster
low fat

Unfortunately I really don't know about commercial foods. I believe there are some prescription foods that are given to pancreatic dogs, but you would have to get from the vet. In the meantime, you could just boil or poach him some chicken breast and cook him up some rice. Cod is another good choice as are egg whites.

My Maggie has kidney disease as well as chronic pancreatitis so my only option with her is to home cook. I do recall one of my pancreas group members saying evanger's vegetarian was low fat, but it does have potato and sweet potato and you would have to add a low fat protein.


Boxer hugs and kisses,

Heather, mom to
Maggie/boxer/63 lbs/11 yrs/ CKD, chronic pancreatitis, hypothyroidism, arthritis and newly diagnosed with adult onset epilepsy and likely IBD.
&
Gabby/boxer/ 42 lbs/5 ½ mos/ Had CaOx crystals- dissolved with low oxylate diet. crazy puppy syndrome :)
Orange County, CA
 
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