New to Forum..... Need crate training support!!

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Nitngale2

Boxer Pal
I've been visiting Boxer World for several years, but have just now needed your help!! Just had to euthanize my boxer Brutus, (horrible) and have gotten a new baby Caesar! (Brutus had a brain tumor). I am trying to crate train Caesar (8 weeks old) and am not having any luck. The kids are home for the summer and he has "The Life". I comment frequently that our home is now "Caesar's Palace". The problem..... I can't stand to hear him whine when we place him in the crate and leave. I know it will be best for everyone if he is trained, but I need some support from fellow boxer lovers!! I've tried to put him in with the door open for naps, lure him in with treats, and he still seems to fear the crate! (We have never punished him by placing him in the crate). Please help!!

Nitngale2 - (Caesar's mom)

Caesar - male, fawn with black mask
 

Barb_IA

Boxer Insane
Welcome to Boxer World! So sorry to here about your Brutus.
I know exactly what your going through. I lost Loki in March.
I don't have any infor on crate training but, there will be lots of others that will help you out there.
Lacey sends her boxer slobber smooches, welcoming you too!
 

ASL4U

Boxer Pal
Crate training

Just finished crate training our new boxer... all you have to do is put the puppy in the crate at night - in your room, next to the bed. The puppy will not go in of its own accord for the first two weeks or so - you must physically pick up the puppy and put him/her in the crate. Then, while you are trying to sleep - give a command... we use a long running - quite monotone (as we are sleeping - or trying to) "be quiet, good girl - go to sleep... thats a good girl, be quiet, good girl - go to sleep" sometimes a " no, lay down... go to sleep - lay down - good girl"
that goes on and on... the first night or two I slept with my fingers in the crate to help her not feel so isolated - but not longer than it took for her to settle...

it took about 3 days for her to simply lie down and go to sleep after I put her in (the first three days - dont expect to sleep much - cuz she's gonna try everything from yapping, to crying to howling to whimpering... that last I hate worse than anything) but after about three days she only cried in the morning - about 3am to go out to pee... and then back in the crate until her second morning pee at around 5am...
having a puppy is like having a baby.. so the early mornings shouldnt' be too much of a surprise (nor should the crying)- they cant hold it longer than about 3 hours until they're about 8 weeks old... and 5 hours until about 3 months old... by 4 months they can and should hold on through the night... but I never hold em to it cuz I've also got another dog and a 3 year old... so 5am is about right for the entire family.

keep the crate in the same room as the dog - we move it into the living room in the am and DO NOT put the dog in it unless we are planning to leave the house - or when the puppy is really younger and still needs naps (when we PUT the puppy in and do the same as above until she sleeps)... but we only leave the door open if the dog goes in of their own accord... we NEVER shut the door if the dog puts itself in...
we never expect the dog to go in without physical direction...

our puppy is now 3 and half months - she will willingly go into the crate when I reach down an touch her collar... I expect by next month she'll be going in on command... but I'm not in a hurry - she does go in - and she's quiet while in there.

she will often, now, seek out the crate for privacy (like I said, I have a 3 year old)... and naps there for the most part -as the kids are forbidden to bother her/play with her when she's in there...

she is quiet in the crate when we go out of the house during the day because she learned at night that the crate is for - being quiet and lying down and going to sleep. so it doesn't really matter when she goes in now cuz she knows why she's in there.

there it is -
good luck
 

EMWAZ

Super Boxer
crating

JUST HANG IN THERE!! We had a lot of trouble crating our second boxer Pancho but once he got used to it, it worked. I have a friend who has an older dog and doesn't like crating but she doesn't understand how good it can be for them.

As long as its not used in an abusive manner I am so grateful that someone told me about crating.. My Zoe loves her crate, and even Pancho after many episodes of crying and slobbering all over himself has adapted to it..

The good news after having Pancho and crating him for approximately 2 years when we left, all three dogs are loose in the house with NO Problems, they have graduated and I now know that if I have to crate them I can without as much stress to them as someone who has never crated their dog.

The other thing crating was good for is for fostering because I met 5 beautiful dogs while fostering and even though it was tough on them if they haven't been crated before it kept them out of trouble, poison, electrical shock, etc. and they all went to good homes except for Buster. I was told I was a failed foster parent but he's been a wonderful addition to our family.
 

Scrapper's Mom

Boxer Insane
Along with all the other good advice above, have you tried leaving the radio on when you leave? I think Scrapper is up on all the latest issues since I always leave Talk Radio on when we go, though your baby might like music better. My friend leaves the TV on for her Boxer, but I haven't gone that far. We did have an energy crisis here in California last year. :)
 
I also worried about the whinning....but I put a tape recorder on top of Lexi's kennel and she stops after I leave. She still whines, if I put her in there and she KNOWS I havent left yet. But she loves her crate now so I know its not that....just the idea of no being out playing near you. Keep it up, it gets better!
 

Chewy's Mom

Boxer Insane
Something to try...

You might try giving your pup a very special treat that he ONLY gets when he's in his crate. Chewy hated going in his crate, but then we started giving him a hollowed out, sterilized bone filled with peanut butter. He loves peanut butter more than life, so this kept him occupied for a while and gave him a chance to calm down. He still doesn't love his crate, and likely never will, but he goes in with no fuss because he knows what goes along with it!

I think maybe we just got lucky with Stella. She's 11 weeks old and was a breeze to crate train. I guess every puppy is different.

Good luck!
 

tnbsmith

Boxer Pal
We have crate-trained our 11 week old since we got her. We bought her a large kennel and put a pillow in along with her fuzzy blanket and the towel that we brought her home in. She cried for about 3 nights, but now she does fine. She doesn't go in by herself yet, but I don't think it will be too long before she does. I don't have to force her in like in the beginning. If we have to crate her when she's not ready for a nap, I throw in a chew toy for her to munch on. I also have been pulling her off the couch when she's napping and putting her in the crate. Keeps her safe from my two youngsters while she's trying to sleep. They want to give her love all the time!! We do use the crate for discipline, too. If she is biting the kids too much or jumping up during supper we will put her in for a "time-out" and she doesn't cry then either. So far, I feel like we have done a good job.
Now, if we can get potty-training down...

Good luck and hang in there!!

Tracie

Maggie- fawn female, black mask, docked tail, natural ears
Brady- 5 year-old Beagle
Noah- 3 year-old skin child
Anna- 17 month old skin child
baby girl on the way!!
 

Linda Lou

Boxer Booster
We also had trouble with Curly, now 19 months later there are no problems. When we leave I turn on Animal Planet for her. We know she doesn't cry because I have set up the video camera from time to time. I always have refered to the crate as bed. So now all I say is "get to bed" and she goes right in. We to, had the crate next to our bed for about the first month or so. I didn't think she would ever stop her whinning, but eventually it works! Just don't give up!
 
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