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Jade'sMommie

Boxer Pal
I'm new to the rescue world and I'm looking for any advice/guidance on how to train our new boy to our family. Copper is 2 years old, and he was surrender by a family with 6 children and a husband who was leaving to Iraq. Apparently he was a house dog for awhile, but the last 2 or 3 months he was banished to the back yard for various reasons.

Anyway, our first night (last Saturday) we had natural nervous issues. He pee'd in the house and even threw up a few times, but after that he's seemed pretty settled. He and my baby girl Jade (she's 1 1/2 and I've had her since she was 4 months) seem to get a long great...sort of. Lately there's seems to be a lot more wrestling and humping of sorts and I realize it's the whole Alpha dog game that's going on, but I don't want either of them to get hurt and I'm looking for good corrective methods to use. Also, I'm having a hard time distinguishing play and aggression. Generally if I hear a growl or if they get too rough, I seperate them, but should I even let them rough play at all? Jade is very disciplined and she stops when I say stop, but Copper has become a little definiant and has began to somewhat nip or mouth at me. I'll tell him "No" but he'll nip and run as if he's scared I'm going to hit him (which is not even an option) oh...and he's also began to bark at me.

I'm looking at getting him into obdience training ASAP, but other than that, what other home training do you suggest? Also, should Jade attend the training as well? This guy has had a rough life, you can see it in his eyes, and the last thing I want to do is give up on him, especially considering it's only been a week. I want him to remain a part of our family, but I do need some advice.

Any information/guidance would be greatly appreciated. Oh...and what area is that NILF board located?
 

tastubbs

Boxer Insane
Hang in there! Both of mine are rescues, and it has been very rewarding in the long run. Obedience training is very helpful.
 

GeebMan

Super Boxer
NILIF is your best starting point, in my opinion. I have brought fosters and my latest adoptee into my home with Brutus and NILIF is always my starting point. I always make both my dogs do a sit/stay in front of their food bowls before they can eat. For me it's just a good start for showing them who the pack leader is. Just be firm with your new addition. Boxers are so very intelligent that he will pick up on it very quickly. At least my fosters and my adoptee have been that way.

Good luck and stick with it.
 

TossBranAbi

Boxer Insane
I agree with the NILIF training as a start and the obedience training for him can't hurt anything. I think that if you feel that Jade is well enough behaved, obedience with just Copper will be a great bonding experience for you two. Just make sure you leave alone time for Jade too. You just have to remember that this is all new to him too, he is just as scared and worried as you are.

As for the growling while playing, mine sound like they are going to eat each other while playing. It is boxer nature to be "loud" while playing. I would just supervise them while playing and stop them every now and again just to remind him that you are the leader. They will growl and bark but that is just how they play.
 

bzs'mom

Boxer Pal
it takes time

I agree with all the responses so far. I've rescued a male boxer before and he had an adjustment period, but he turned out to be one of the best dogs that I've ever had.
I would make Copper work for everything he gets, food, toys, etc...even though he has had a hard life -do not feel bad for him and give him special treatment that your first dog doesn't get. That could prolong or make the unwanted behavior worse.
He is probably testing you =I feel that the barking at you is sort of like a kid talking back (haha). He is a teenager in dog years right?
The quicker you show him how he is expected to behave the quicker he will adjust. I did the obedience training when I adopted too. Copper has a great home now so don't let his last home dictate how he lives his life now, let him enjoy having boundaries and being welcome in a warm loving house.
I have 2 boxers now and they make TONS of noise when playing.
Good luck with Copper, it takes a few months.
 

Jade'sMommie

Boxer Pal
Thank you very much for all of the info! He's a great boy and even though The Diva (Jade) is still a little upset with the new addition, I can tell she loves him already! It's going to take some time but with your help, research, and patience we'll be great! He's an awesome boy and I absoultely love showing them off in public! All I've heard so far is "Wow, those are two beautiful dogs!" Thanks again, and if anyone has more to add, keep the suggestions coming!!!!
 

ladyluck_t

Boxer Insane
I'm new to the rescue world and I'm looking for any advice/guidance on how to train our new boy to our family. Copper is 2 years old, and he was surrender by a family with 6 children and a husband who was leaving to Iraq. Apparently he was a house dog for awhile, but the last 2 or 3 months he was banished to the back yard for various reasons.
Congrats on your new rescue. First off, a bit of advice, no matter what you know about his past or suspect try to forget it. It is nice to know some information, but in the end a lot of times this puts up a "road block" in our own minds when training. It is much better to go it "cold", remember that dogs live in the present, they do not worry about the past or agonize over what has happened to them. They do learn to behave a certain way which is why it is nice to know some things, but in general it seems to be easier for people to train a dog when they dont know anything about the past. This is what I have found working with the rescue dogs. I used to have a whole story made up, but in the end none of it mattered, it was what was happening right now. :) So try not to let his past color your training.
Anyway, our first night (last Saturday) we had natural nervous issues. He pee'd in the house and even threw up a few times, but after that he's seemed pretty settled. He and my baby girl Jade (she's 1 1/2 and I've had her since she was 4 months) seem to get a long great...sort of. Lately there's seems to be a lot more wrestling and humping of sorts and I realize it's the whole Alpha dog game that's going on, but I don't want either of them to get hurt and I'm looking for good corrective methods to use. Also, I'm having a hard time distinguishing play and aggression. Generally if I hear a growl or if they get too rough, I seperate them, but should I even let them rough play at all? Jade is very disciplined and she stops when I say stop, but Copper has become a little definiant and has began to somewhat nip or mouth at me. I'll tell him "No" but he'll nip and run as if he's scared I'm going to hit him (which is not even an option) oh...and he's also began to bark at me.
Ok, what I do in this situation is a quick "play time out" which is what you are doing. This helps them work on self control as well, one thing though that makes the play time out work is the release word. You must first teach the release word command before the play time out will work, which is why you are getting back talk ;) he doesnt know how else to act. So basically, when a dog acts in a way that you dont like, the best thing to do is teach them an acceptable behavior and then they know what to do in such situations. This one-on-one training that you will have to do to get him up to speed is a great bonding experience for both of you. Use it well.
Also, in my house "I" am the alpha, and until they start paying bills I will remain the alpha. So my rules are the only ones that matter. My point being, if you dont like the humping....then make the rule that there is no humping allowed in your home. If you think they are playing too rough, then make the rule that rough play = time out. And enforce it. This is way more work for you than it is painful for them. But until they know what the rules are, they will continue to exhibit a variety of behaviors. Be sure to reward the good behaviors so that they get the clue.
I'm looking at getting him into obdience training ASAP, but other than that, what other home training do you suggest? Also, should Jade attend the training as well? This guy has had a rough life, you can see it in his eyes, and the last thing I want to do is give up on him, especially considering it's only been a week. I want him to remain a part of our family, but I do need some advice.
Best thing to do is relax, :D it takes foster and new rescue dogs close to 2 weeks to 2 months to fully settle in. The way to ease his transisiton and acclimation into your home is to set clear rules, and insist that everyone follow them. This structure will make you a good leader in their eyes and they will behave better because of it. (unless you have a teenager.....which I have and to be honest, I am going to hang him from the tree by his nubby if he continues to landscape my yard.....5 minutes is all it takes to empty, destroy and play with 6 plastic 6in pots complete with flowering plants and dirt....grrr...so training and behaving does take time)
Any information/guidance would be greatly appreciated. Oh...and what area is that NILF board located?
If I were you I would do a search on the board for NILF or Nothing in LIfe is free ..... you should find more than your fair share of information that way. Also, the book "How to be the leader of the pack..." by Patricia McConnell is the most clear and well defined explination of the NILF method that I have seen.

Another key place to look for information is Suzanne Clothier's website:
http://www.flyingdogpress.com/artlibreg.htm
she has a load of training articles and tidbits of information....love her writing style.

Hope that helped!
 

Jade'sMommie

Boxer Pal
Carolyn

Thanks for the response! You had me in stiches ("until they start paying bills" CLASSIC!) however, all your points were well received nonetheless! I'm going to go on Amazon tomorrow and see if I can find that book you suggested! I do truly appreciate all the advice/info.

Copper is still adjustng fairly well. We still continue to have some nipping/mouthing issues, however, we're going to the obdience training this weekend and I will keep you all posted! He really is a sweet boy however, and as I type this the two of them are all snuggled together in one of their beds and it really is adorable. They fight like banchees, but at the end of the day (literally) they really do love each other, and if one isn't in eye sight of the other they get all crazy.

Anywho, like I said I'll keep you guys posted!
 
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