Mange Common??????

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rsanders

Boxer Buddy
How common is it that a 7 month old puppy will get mange 2 times in less than 4 months?? we just took him in 3 weeks ago for pyoderma skin rash but now he has the same symptoms of his mange hair loss etc..He is such a handful and i dont know if there is something he is getting into or what that is causing it?????
 

gmacleod

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Well, I wouldn't go so far as to call demodex common. The vast majority of dogs don't get it at all. It is not unusual however.

As for being affected twice... well, what you've got to figure here is that demodex is an immune system problem. All dogs have demodex mites living inside the hair follicules (and you have a human version, btw). They're a natural flora of the coat and normally live in harmony with their host. They cause problems only when the pup has an immune system problem. That might mean an underdeveloped immune system, it might mean an overly stressed immune system (assaulted by multiple vaccinations, operations like neutering, general stresses, etc), or it might mean an outright defective immune system. The fact that he's been affected twice suggests one of the latter two scenarios is the most likely.

What you can do to help him recover and avoid recurrances then, is to boost or support his immune system as far as possible. That means boosting via the highest quality diet you can possibly feed - raw natural diets are generally best, but failing that, a very high quality kibble and supplements as required. And the flip side - removing stresses. That's stress in general, but also specific assaults on the immune system - so no vaccinations or elective surgeries until he's recovered, and think very carefully about chemical treatments like fleas, ticks and worming (all of which have an immune system consequence).
 

rsanders

Boxer Buddy
yea i dont know if it has to do with him being outside all the time during the day while we are gone to work and college we have a mixed breed puppy she doesnt show any signs of it and they eat the same food what is best btw??? we are feeding him pedigree because his dad feeds his boxers that and they are healthy as horses but i dont think its doing him good....is there a suggestion because he doesnt care to feed the best he cost too much to give up on him now.....
 

gmacleod

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Mmm. Pedigree certainly isn't going to help. It's a very low quality food - and this is a dog that needs his immune system boosted by the best nutrition you can give him (the underpinner of health).

I'd suggest taking a look at our feeding page at www.boxerworld.com/feeding No food can magically be any better than the ingredients used to make it, so you need to look for quality there. That page gives you a good idea of what to look for, what to avoid and why. With that information, you should be able to make a reasonable assessment of any food you look at, including seeing what's so wrong with Pedigree.

For suggestions on better foods to choose - take a look at www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews There is information there on the contents of 500+ different dog foods, along with ratings and reviews of the ingredients. For a puppy, you should choose something that is based on meat rather than plant protein and that has a crude protein level in the 22-26% range. Most of the foods rated 4 or 5 stars on that site would be suitable (but not the 6 star foods).

And for where to find them - try feedstores. They're the best bet, followed by non-chain petstores. You will never find a good quality food in the grocery store, and not in most big-chain petstores either - they prefer to carry the low end stuff that they can shift in bulk. And once you've identified some good foods, check the food manufacturers websites also (easily found by internet search) - most have store locators that can help you to find a retailer near you :)
 

rsanders

Boxer Buddy
thanks if he doesnt get better by changing his food we will have to make an appointment at the vet ....hopefully its not serious .......
 

shadowmom

Boxer Pal
Hi, I just wanted to add that my then 3 mo puppy had demodectic mange. And has had a few episodes since. It manifested as a thinning of her fur then a couple of small bald spots on her head, it took about 2 weeks for the spots to become fully bald. I didn't know what it was so at vets insistance I did a few mitoban dips and eventually the goodwinal. I wouldn't recommend either of those. She has a flare up whenever she is left alone for more than 4 hours. Her 1st bout with it was right after Easter when we left her to visit both mine & my husband's families for the day, she was alone for about 8 hours. I am a stay at home mom and our house is usually pretty busy. So now I just make sure we either put her in doggy daycare or my brother will sit with her if we are gone for long periods of time. If she does have a flare up, I just give her extra attention and make sure she gets her vitamins(missing link), she usually starts to clear up within a few days.
 

SOBE

Boxer Booster
rsanders said:
yea i dont know if it has to do with him being outside all the time during the day while we are gone to work and college we have a mixed breed puppy she doesnt show any signs of it\

How long do your pups stay outside while you are gone to work and college? Maybe it's something else that's eating your pup other than good care while you are at home.
 

rsanders

Boxer Buddy
we have a fenced in 1 acre yard and we are gone about 8 hours a day i dont know what he has got into and it is really making me wonder....
 
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