low protein for kidney & weight management?

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BaxtersMommy

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Hi all Sadie my pitt mix has kidney disease and Baxter is a bit overweight. We tried Sadie on the two most popular kidney diets even though hesitant after reading the ingredients and she blew up like a balloon. she gained so much weight. We have since taken her off and she and Baxter both have been eating Natural Balance light for over 6 months noe. Sadie went back to a wonderful weight and I will have her kidney levels checked soon to see if they are ok and Baxter well lost a few pounds gained a few and now has lost a few from surgery. I am interested in switching them to something else that is lower protein and light just to give them something different. Any suggestions?
 

gmacleod

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For renal disease management, it's best to talk to your vet on diet requirements (doesn't mean you need to use the brand he suggests, but what general protein and other nutritent levels to aim for is something he should be able to discuss). High protein doesn't cause kidney problems, but management of existing kidney problems can require modified diet indeed. Of some importance is high quality protein (low quality proteins are stressful to the kidneys) so it makes some sense to watch that you don't end up with a food loaded with plant/grain protein. You might also find this site useful: http://b-naturals.com/May2004.php

For the other dog though - the one with no kidney problems, but who is overweight: protein does not make dogs fat (not unless overfed, anyway). More often, it is large amounts of carbohydrates that stack the fat on. Dogs have no evolved need of carbs at all in their diets, being instead uniquely evolved to consume diets comprised primarily of protein and fat. Fat (unless excessive amounts are consumed) gets burnt as instand energy. But carbs? Well, the dog's body doesn't utilise those well, and they're most often just stored as fat. Unfortunately, most so-called diet foods have very little else in them but carbs (the only exception I can think of just now is Canidae Platinum). And interestingly, many people with overweight (fat) pets report weight loss when they switch to high protein/high fat/low carb foods such as Innova EVO.

Anyway, it actually sounds as though you have two dogs with very different dietary needs there. I'm not sure that there would be all that many (if any) products out there that would suit the needs of both a renal patient and an overweight dog.
 

BaxtersMommy

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thanks for a quick response

Thanks for the quick reply. I will be looking into putting them both on seperate diets. Whenever I talk to my vet she just suggest to me a light or senior food for Sadie with the kidney problems since she gained so much weight on the 2 renal diets we tried. The vet said she gained so much beacuse those diets are minly for dogs in the later stages of renal failure that do not eat very much so they are packed with fat. I personally did not like the ingredients and have read so many things about renal diets were they are not proven to work. My vet says it could add 5 years to her life being on a renal diet. Not sure what to do. If that was true of course I would have her on it but her being obese could kill her just as fast. I think I will try Baxter on a higher protein diet. He is very active. I was looking around in petco today and was checking out the solid gold. I may try him on one of those. I am going to my vet in two weeks and will talk to her again about Sadie's diet. thanks again for your help.

Christel
 
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