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[An-D]

Wow...

Ok, Looks like I won't be adopting. Christine seems very angry I decided to get the opinions of other boxer owners (I thought that was why these forums are here) prior to me sending an email explaining my frustration (NOT ANGER!). I just simply didn't want to send a email that didn't need to be sent. The reason I decided to use BW was to get more ideas and information regarding the Adoption process. Furthermore now that I have read some responses I have a better understanding of the dynamics of the whole process. Christine, I mentioned that I recieved your first response and unfortunately never recieved the 2nd response you spoke of otherwise I might not have "Vented" or "trashed" niether of which I was trying to do. And I did in fact send an additional email. For everyone reading this Boxer Luv Rescue is a great organization and I truly respect them for what they are trying to do for these less forunate dogs. Now that you have "defended yourself " I hope you feel better about the situation. By no means was I attacking you (Christine) or Boxer Luv Rescue. All I was doing was trying to do was get the opinions of others that might be able to shed some light about how things work when trying to adopt.

Please understand that for me something like this is time sensitive. As all of you already know training your boxer can be a full time job. My boxer is still young and I was hoping to adopt another young boxer that could learn right along with him. Honestly I only had good intentions. I had no desire to "name smear" I would like to apoligize to Christine for any damage I might have done.

I've read of others that feel the same way I do and I know there are more out there. A word of advice keep you thoughts to your self. After this I'm not sure I would be able to get a fair chance at adopting because of the way my post was misunderstood. When I said "Run Around" all I ment was why the emails and neuter info and all that. I had no idea it was such a drawn out process. Adopting from the pound or no kill rescue's with your average mixed breed can be done on the spot for 60-90$. That's all I ment by "Run around"

I hope my posts have not discouraged anyone from trying to adopt. If you are trying to adopt and have become frustrated read some of the insights above so that you may have a better idea of how things work.

 

[rog1006]

Andy-

Thank you for your response. If you are still interested in adoption, please fax your neuter certificate and we will continue with the process. Just because we have a misunderstanding personally, does not mean that I (or anyone else) will be unfair in this process. We do it for those sweet little mush faces, and if you're a wonderful home, then we'll work with you.

Christine
Boxer Luv Rescue
www.arizonaboxerrescue.org

 

[VTbxrFan]

I had no idea it was such a drawn out process. Adopting from the pound or no kill rescue's with your average mixed breed can be done on the spot for 60-90$.

Just as word of explanation for you or anyone in the future interested in rescue...I fully support adopting from shelters. There are a lot of great dogs and sadly many are put to sleep before they go to great homes, so don't misconstrue my next few statements as anything negative about shelters. But...an independent breed rescue such as many of the boxer rescues across the country operate very differently than shelters from the beginning. We provide a service, to both people and dogs, that a shelter doesn't have the resources to provide. We treat significant medical issues - often requiring many months of recovery and lots of money. We also have these dogs living in our homes so that when they are adopted, we can provide a lot more information to a prospective family about the dog's personality and daily routine - much more information than you can get from a shelter. We typically have our rescues for several months, so we know a lot more about them than shelter that has a dog for a few days or a week can possibly know. The time and money we put into our dogs are the reasons we have to charge higher adoption fees. And as far as the time schedule, you are right that it's much faster to adopt from a shelter. Unfortunately they have to work with a different timeline than we do because in many cases, if the dogs aren't moved out of the shelter quickly, they will be put to sleep. Groups like the boxer rescues I'm familiar with have the luxury of more time on our hands, so we can make sure that we find the right home and reduce the chances that the dog will have to change homes again. Certainly we also want to place our dogs in permanent homes so we can continue to help others, but we make me a big commitment to dogs when we bring them into our program - finding the right home takes precedence over finding the first available home.

I hope that you will still consider adopting a dog - whether it's from a rescue group or a shelter. It's very rewarding! And just a side note, I do understand your desire to train both of your dogs at the same time, but wanted to mention that it can often work our really well to wait until one is older because the younger/newer dog can learn from the older one. I'm really seeing that now - we just adopted a younger boxer (about 1 1/2 yrs) and she's really picking up a lot from our 4 1/2 yr old. I'm not trying to say that I think you should wait...I just wanted to point out that if it doesn't happen now, it's never going to be too late!

 

[EMWAZ]

boxer adoption..

My personal experience was I attempted to e-mail another boxer rescue and never heard from them and we went ahead and bought Pancho from an owner who was separating from his wife and couldn't give him the time he deserved.. Since that I've volunteered and still help out sometimes with the same rescue and low and behold one of my fosters became mine, so it worked and I did see how overwhelmed the rescues can be. From now on I will probably never get anything but rescues... My third dog a boxer mix is from the humane society..

 

[rog1006]

Just as word of explanation for you or anyone in the future interested in rescue...I fully support adopting from shelters. There are a lot of great dogs and sadly many are put to sleep before they go to great homes, so don't misconstrue my next few statements as anything negative about shelters. But...an independent breed rescue such as many of the boxer rescues across the country operate very differently than shelters from the beginning. We provide a service, to both people and dogs, that a shelter doesn't have the resources to provide. We treat significant medical issues - often requiring many months of recovery and lots of money. We also have these dogs living in our homes so that when they are adopted, we can provide a lot more information to a prospective family about the dog's personality and daily routine - much more information than you can get from a shelter. We typically have our rescues for several months, so we know a lot more about them than shelter that has a dog for a few days or a week can possibly know. The time and money we put into our dogs are the reasons we have to charge higher adoption fees. And as far as the time schedule, you are right that it's much faster to adopt from a shelter. Unfortunately they have to work with a different timeline than we do because in many cases, if the dogs aren't moved out of the shelter quickly, they will be put to sleep. Groups like the boxer rescues I'm familiar with have the luxury of more time on our hands, so we can make sure that we find the right home and reduce the chances that the dog will have to change homes again. Certainly we also want to place our dogs in permanent homes so we can continue to help others, but we make me a big commitment to dogs when we bring them into our program - finding the right home takes precedence over finding the first available home.

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Perfectly stated! On an average we are spending between $300-$500 per dog so we are having to constantly do fundraising, etc to even stay in the black... We're in the red WAAAAY too often because when you're standing there looking at a boxer getting ready to be euthanized it's impossible to walk away, so we take him or her, start vet treatments, invite yet another foster into our houses (when all of our fosters are full we have to board also) and just pray that we can afford it. Julia Valentine is a perfect example of a little girl that was way past PRIME age, waiting to die at a shelter and even in her terrible condition, we couldn't let her die in a shelter alone. She proved the world wrong and has become our little Boxer Luv mascot... So far, her vet bills alone are well over $1,000 and we'd do it again in a heartbeat.

Christine
Boxer Luv Rescue
www.arizonaboxerrescue.org

 

[HarleyMama]

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I really applaud all of you in rescue... you really bring to light everything that goes into helping/saving these Boxers. Also, by reading all of your posts, not just on this thread but others as well, you have made me and hopefully others understand why the adoption process does take time and does need to be strict. After all of the love and care you've put into these Boxer's lives, you NEED to make sure they are going to a FOREVER home that is well suited for them and that they and the home will be happy with. I'm sure that since they are RESCUES theyve been through enough trauma... why put them in non-compatable environments where they risk being even more unhappy. If you are going to take the time, money, and emotion to save these dogs lives, you need to ensure they will last and live in happiness for the rest of their natural lives with a family that will love and care for them as you would and have.

Thanks for all that you do!!!!

Melissa & Harley

 

[An-D]

Thanks

I have learned a lot from this post. Most importantly that these rescue groups are doing a lot for these dogs. I truly admire them for their efforts. I must admit after reading about what goes in the Rescue/Adoption process I no longer feel frustrated. It's hard when you don't know whats going on behind the scenes.

Christine, I'm taking Stonewall to see the vet tomorrow because he keeps licking at the spot where he had surgery and the Vet didn't put on cone thingy on his head so we are a little concerned so I will ask about the Certificate then. Once the Vet gives me the Cert. I will fax it over so we can proceed with the Adoption Process. Again I'm sorry about the misunderstanding we had before.

 

[ACEY]

Adoption Frustration!

Hello to An-D and anyone else who can relate. I have been a boxer owner for six years and my best friend past away a few months ago. I miss him so much but need those boxer kisses! So I decided to adopt. I searched the internet for information, then applied to a couple of local boxer rescues. I recieved both phone interviews (very positive and went well), reference checks (same), one home visit (awesome) and bam!---NOTHING! I am so frusterated and sad. We have a beautiful home of 15 years in the country and wonderful family, older children, no other pets and lots of boxer love to give. I understand it takes time, I have been pleasant and patient with them, I know they are all busy voluteers with their own lives but how long does one wait for this process? I have stated that I am not fussy with the dogs age or color and have been very open and honest with everything from begining to end. I feel like I could have adopted a child easier than this! My family and neighbors think I am nuts to expose my life and wait this long for a dog. Today I visited a shelter who had a beautiful German Shepherd that a family gave up. I am leaning towards him now because I need to have a dog in my life again. I want to adopt, especially a boxer but so far has been a very long and frustrating process. What should I do?

 

[An-D]

ACEY,

I would check the paper. I have found that many people get boxers but by the time they are 6-8 months old don't want them anymore probably cause they are a little over excited with LOVE. So they put them up for sale in the classifieds. The only problem with that is they go FAST and I mean fast. The ad will post in the paper and the next day the dog has already be purchased. Keep faith there is a Boxer/Dog out there in need of your loving home. I think you should get the shepard sounds like he needs someone like you in his life. Good luck.

 

[harris2x2]

Acey,

I can understand not wanting to wait any longer, but please do! The rewards and benefits of rescuing are countless, as I am finding out each day.

We adopted Precious less than a month ago from the Boxer rescue here in Northern Illinois. From application 'til the time we brought her home took a little over a month, but I can be very impatient when I set my mind to something so even this short time seemed like an eternity. When we rescue again, I'd wait three times as long, probably more.

There are so many benefits, like I said, but here are a few that you might not get if you respond to an ad or even through humane societies...

UTD on all shots
heartworm negative/on preventative
spayed/neutered
most likely housetrained
temperament tested with dogs, cats, children
microchip implanted
knowledge of some basic commands, possibly obedience training
crate trained
a reliable resource for any problems that may arise

They know these dogs inside and out, whether they are kenneled or are in foster homes, and they'll know which one belongs with you and your family.

Now do not get me wrong, adopting from a shelter is great! You'll be helping a dog either way, but if you can hold out a little longer I think you'll be very happily surprised.

This thread has made one thing very clear, these rescues are inundated with dogs. That is likely the reason you've heard nothing. I'm not sure how long your wait has been. Perhaps you can email them, politely asking how the process is moving along, etc. I actually did that, and only after three weeks. It turned out that they had called me two days earlier, but somehow in our daily scramble I missed it.

I just realized how long this post has become! Anyway, please wait a while longer! It sounds like you'd make a great parent. Very best of luck to you...

Jen