how do i stop him jumping up on me

[meekasmom]

Im not talking about kneeing him/her!! to hurt her!! my god!! this trainer has may recommondations, and has a very good name! all he say is to use your knee and push her to the side, as they do not like to be off balance as they are 4 legged. not to beat them! here is his site check it out Link removed by moderator
I am sorry if that came across a mean, but that was not how it was intended!

 

[gmacleod]

It's not just a matter of whether or not it's intended to injure the dog. It is that that sort of method carries an extremely high risk of injuring the dog, whether it's meant to or not. Most people who think choke chains are a good method don't intend to cause their dog tracheal or spinal injuries either - but its what ends up happening in an unacceptably high number of cases (as post-mortem examination has revealed - on dogs that died of other, including natural causes that is).

Dogs jump, they try in mid-air to avoid knees (once they figure out what you're doing), and dogs get injured in the process. And that's with people who 'know what they're doing', let alone the the average dog owner.Whether you force your knee into the dog's chest or ribcage deliberately, or it happens by accident because the dog leapt at the moment you're raising you knee to "push him off balance" is irrelevant. The result is the same, and it's the result that counts.

There are plenty of non-violent and safe ways to train a dog not to jump. In this day and age, there really is no need or excuse for the use of risky adversives for a simply-solved problem. We're not in the 1940s any more.

I would draw attention (for the last time) to the rules for participation on Boxerworld. Specifically this bit:

Topics and behaviours inappropriate on this site include:
- Discussion of deliberate use of devices or practices that cause or have the potential to cause physical trauma to a dog. Boxerworld does recognise that people do have genuine questions regarding training tools (choke chains, prong collars, mousetraps etc) and methods, but we support and promote wholeheartedly positive training and behaviour management, that is, teaching the dog what to do by using positive methods, not teaching a dog what not to do by causing it discomfort and pain. Any threads which appear to promote "negative" training and methods will be closed.

The use of knees as "deterrents" is most certainly not a positive training practice, but a negative one with high potential to cause injury. Thus, in accordance with the site rules, this thread is now closed.