Holter Monitor Experience?

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LilianaLove

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Hi all. I don't have a boxer, but I do have a lovely little pit bull who is going to need a holter monitor soon. I'm a vet tech, but I've never used one of these, have no experience with them, and I don't know how she'll handle it.

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Background information: Lily was diagnosed with hypoaldosteronemia (a very rare for of Addisons, in which the body produces normal cortisol levels but does not produce enough aldosterone) in July of this year (she is 3 years old).

I brought Lily in for routine bloodwork on friday to check her electrolytes and kidney values. We increased her Florinef to 1.75 tablets BID (0.35mg total daily).

By chance, I decided to recheck her heart rate and BP, for monitoring purposes. When I listened to her heart, I couldn't even discern a heart rate. There was so much fluttering and missing beats it was incomprehensible. So I hooked her up to the EKG and it showed tachycardia.

My boss initially attempted to treat the tachycardia with atenolol, which did not seem to work. We then tried IV atropine, which did work to resolve the heart block we were seeing. We had assumed the tachycardia was ok, since that is what atropine is for, speeding up the heart rate. The next day, we were still seeing heart block, though we were using very low dose atropine.

After attempting to monitor and treat her for 2 days, I had to take her to the ER, as my boss was unavailable for communication and I needed help (and sleep). The ER did nothing more than monitor, which was fine, as she had a cardiology consult in the morning (monday morning).

The cardiologist did an echocardiogram, EKG, and BP. The cardiologist discerned that the heart block was a result of the tachycardia, and that what we needed to be doing was slowing down her heart rate, not speeding it back up. We initially did not understand why she was saying this, as when we tested with atropine, it resolved the block.

The bottom line is Lily WAS in heart block. The cardiologist was, however, correct that the heart block was physiological. Lily was in atrial tachycardia, meaning the SA node (the electrical impulse telling the atrium to contract) was firing too rapidly and causing too many atrial contractions. When measured on EKG, Lily's heart rate was actually around 300bpm (her normal resting HR is 80bpm, tachycardia is considered anything over 180bpm). The heart block was caused by the fact that the atrium was contracting more rapidly than the ventricle's refractory period. So, the atrium was contracting, but the ventricle did not have enough blood in it to warrant contracting, so the ventricle did not contract, leaving the EKG reading P waves without QRS complexes (heart block) and subsequent pulse deficits. So it looked like she was in heart block when, in reality, her ventricle was being smart and not over working itself. This is still considered heart block, but tachycardic type II 2nd degree. So, when we gave the atropine, it only seemed like we were getting rid of the block, and solving what we thought was the problem, however we were artificially stimulating the ventricle to contract, thus every P then had a QRS and a pulse for every beat.

At the cardiologist, probably due to stress and heart exhaustion, she had episodes of ventricular tachycardia and ventricular premature contractions (VPCs). Had this progressed, she could have possibly gone into cardiac arrest. However, her body once again compensated and attempted to slow her heart rate.

She is currently on a medication, Sotalol, an anti-arrhythmic, so slow down her heart rate and stop the atrial tachycardia.

We will be rechecking an EKG next week, and the week after she will have Holter monitor to assure the sotalol is doing what it's supposed to be doing and that her heart remains in normal rhythm.

There are a lot of things that don't make sense with her- the fact that she entered true, 2nd degree heart block at one point on sunday and the fact that she exhibited v-tach and VPCs only once and recovered fine. Unfortunately, I ran out of EKG paper sunday morning and had to simply record video and take pictures, so I can't measure the P waves from the time on sunday that her heart rate slowed down significantly and she exhibited true heart block. However, I do know that the block she was exhibiting at that time had nothing to do with any current state of tachycardia, I just can't prove it on EKG.

I've already sent out a full tick panel PCR, include lyme disease C6, screening to rule out tick-borne illness as a cause of any myocarditis. We are researching the necessity of running a Troponin I level.

We are still very much of the belief that this is a reaction to the increased dose of medication, as she had a similar reaction at 2 tablets BID.

There is a chance she may need to stay on the sotalol if we have any hope of getting her back on the florinef. We can't keep her off the florinef; she will inevitably go into kidney failure. So my boss will talk to the internal medicine specialist and the other cardiologist and see if we can get a full-body approach to our treatment plan. For now, until her arrhythmias stop, she will be off the florinef, meaning I'll have to add water to her diet on a regular basis again, basically every few hours like before.

I came to a boxer forum because my understanding is that boxers are routinely tested with holter monitors and someone might have some insight.Lily is very 'anti-harness' and I don't know how she will handle it. She will have to wear it for 2-4 weeks.

Thanks for reading and for any suggestions.
 

Draymia

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I run Holters routinely on my guys. We only have to do a 24 hour test. 2-4 weeks will be a long time. I do have a vest to cover the electrodes and keep the wires from bored teeth. You can use a T-shirt to keep everything protected. I do watch my dogs very closely while they are wearing the Holter. If they get fed up with it, a lot of damage can be done to the wires and monitor in a very short amount of time. If you can find or make a vest, things will probably go smoother. The vest has a pocket to hold the monitor and wires. You will probably find that she will do fine after the first hour. Your biggest problem is going to be keeping the electrodes in place, and they won't last over a couple of days, without having to be replaced. Also, there may be some irritation in the electrode area, depending on the level of activity of your girl.

Good luck with your girl. :)
 

darwinsmom

Super Boxer
Wow, your girl is really lucky to have you! I can't even imagine a Holter for 2-4 weeks. My boy had ARVC and we did the Holter for 24-hours quite a few times. He always tolerated it, but he was never his normal self while wearing it. Basically would just mope around and sleep. I think the issue he had with it was carrying around the recorder on his back - even though it wasn't heavy at all.

The first few times they wrapped him up really well with vet wrap. I would avoid this for longer monitoring for a couple of reasons. First, it is very constrictive and also, if the electrodes start to come loose, which some will, you won't be able to recognize it as quickly. Eventually he started wearing a neoprene vest. Although he continued to act all put out, I think he was more comfortable and it was easier for me to check to make sure the electrodes were in place and the wires attached. You might try to get a Holter vest ahead of time and get her used to wearing it before she actually needs to have it on.

Best of luck to you and Lily.

ETA: Like Cheryl mentioned, he was never alone while wearing the Holter, not only because we didn't want to risk him getting at the device, but because we needed to keep a diary of his activities.
 
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LilianaLove

Boxer Pal
Well I'm clearly an idiot, but I blame exhaustion and too much information for my little brain. It is only for 24 hours.

I guess my main concern is that the results won't be accurate, if she's stressed out and anxious the whole time.

Lily wears a back pack when we hike, and a harness when we bike, but she only tolerates them because she gets to do something fun. I'm seeing a shaking dog in my future.

Thanks for the advice. I'll call he cardiologist and see if they have vests available or know where I can find one.
 

Cami

Boxer Insane
My first Boxer girl had ARVC and was holtered many times. I won't lie....she wasn't a fan and the first time she had it on she went 19 hours without going potty. It scared me but she just flat out refused to do anything "normal" aside from eating. After the 24 hours were up and it was removed she walked out of the cardio's office and promptly went pee.
Additional holters seemed to go better and her last one I actually have a video of her with it on and playing normally.
At one time when her heart rate was so incredibly fast that I couldn't get a reading (by hand) and the cardio hooked her to to an EKG (well over 300 bpm), she was diagnosed with supraventricular tachycardia. In her case they immediately tried lidocaine but she didn't tolerate it (profuse vomiting) so they went with another med. What they used escapes me currently but it was only 1/2 successful. She went on to develop dilated cardiomyoapthy in addition to the ARVC and then went into congestive heart failure.
Her first and perhaps her second holters were covered with some type of burlap-type vest material. It could not have been very comfortable to wear since it was scratchy to the touch (my hands).
Her later ones were a lot nicer and quite soft and far less bulky. She was pretty sensitive to the sticky material (pads) where the leads attached to. Even with only 24 hours she would have a rash in those areas once removed. I was told there was another option available for humans with the same sensitivity but it had not (at the time) made it to vet medicine yet.
I hope you get answers very soon. Best wishes to your girl.
 

LilianaLove

Boxer Pal
Lily has VERY sensitive skin. She was laying on the remote earlier and it left imprints of the buttons on her chest. As a white dog, she flushes pink whenever she's hot or excited. When I draw her blood, my fingers will leave a red mark on her nose for at least 10 minutes afterwards from holding her.

What is the best way to avoid a skin reaction to the pads?
 

Gatorblu

Boxer Insane
Thor gets to wear the holter once a year. He is not a fan of it and if there is available wall space he willrub the whole length of the wall trying to get it off. He has actually had to wear the vest once. Our original cardiologist would put the patches on and then use the no stick adhesive over them. He was never shaved either. He wrapped everything around Thor's regular harness.

Our old cardiologist has moved on and now we've gone to the nearest university. This time Thor was shaved, he had the vest and there was glue residue from the patches . I think there must be two companies that do the holter. I know our original cardiologist downloaded the info from the monitor and we had the results in 48-72 hours. With the university I got the impression that they looked over the info themselves and it took a week to get the results. Plus they cost twice as much. I wish I had paid more attention to the first cardiologist when he mentioned the company he used. I know the readings solid with what the first cardiologist used because I got a complete report with him. The university wasn't as thorough.

I wish you and Lily luck!
 

LilianaLove

Boxer Pal
They said they provide the vests, so I guess that's what she'll wear.

Of all the clients we refer there, I've never seen a holter monitor report or anyone that's used one.

I guess we'll find out in a week or so. She won't look terribly silly shaved, since she's a short-haired, white dog, but even the clippers irritate her pretty quickly (she still has a scab from where they placed the catheter, just from the shave job).

On the other hand, her heart rate is down to 70 with only a few 'hiccups', so we're doing much better. She's been on complete activity rest (difficult for a sporting dog used to miles of exercise). I got her a big elk antler that she's been enthralled with that's been keeping her happy. We ran an EKG a couple days ago and it looked much better, with an atrial rate of only 120 (better than 360!).

Hopefully the cardiologist is pleased with her EKG on monday, because I think this dog would appreciate a walk!
 

LilianaLove

Boxer Pal
Just thought I'd update.

Lily's EKG looked pretty good. Only a few pulse deficits, and they were pretty widely spaced. She's at no risk of tachycardia right now, her drugs are doing their job.

She's officially been cleared to take a walk around the block. She's going to be so thrilled, poor girl started chasing her tail tonight. It's not going to be our usual 2 mile daily walk, but at least she'll get out of the house and walk around a bit.

I ran a chem 27, cbc, t4, urinalysis tonight and will get those results tomorrow. Hopefully her kidneys are ok but I could probably guess the exact values of her kidneys and electrolytes. We really need to get her back on the florinef.

I want to get the holter monitor next week so we can make steps to get her started on the florinef again.

I'm really hoping this is just a phase and she'll get back to normal. If it's not, it looks like her sporting career is over, at only 3 years old. We'll cross that bridge when we get there I guess.
 

ELubas

Boxer Insane
Want to wish you and Lily the best with the holter. She looks like a doll. lovicon My boy had very sensitive skin and was holtered a lot in his time. Skin has to be pretty dry when the leads go on but I really "greased" him up with oil to get them off. I just took my time taking breaks when he got restless. Then I used a vit E cream for a few days to soothe his skin. An oatmeal bath seemed to feel good to him too. It was not easy to holter but he got through it. My girl now has taken it off twice in the blink of an eye so no sleep for you :LOL: Let us know how she does
 
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