I need some major help here! My 4 month old boxer pees in his crate. Most of the time when he's out of the crate he goes to the door but if you don't let him out imediatly he pees in the house. But the worst is he will pee in the crate and then bark and throw a fit AFTER the fact. I don't know how to house break this dog. His crate is not too big, as a mater of fact he needs to move to our bigger one but he will pee in there several times before letting us know. He is fed,walked,and has his play times at around the same time each day. I tried changing this routine when this started to accomadate when he would go in his crate,but he just went at differant times. I think he does it for spite,but I can't have him out all the time because with 2 kids(sometimes 4) I can't get him out the door fast enough when he goes to it. We would like to eventually gate him in the kitchen and slowly give him more freedom but I don't want to have to disinfect my floor everyday! Does anyone have any suggestions???????:( :( :( :( :(
Help, Pees In Crate!!!!!
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First of all are you sure the dog is peeing in the crate? I don't want to imply that you don't know what pee is
, but I thought my 7 month old was peeing in the crate, but on further investigation, found that it is an excessive amout of slobber! :rolleyes: She is not used to the crate yet, ( just got her about 2 weeks ago) and when she gets upset, she slobbers ALOT! Her blanket gets soaked with slobber, as well as her front legs, and anything else in the crate.
If your dog is peeing in the crate, :confused: I dont' have a clue.... I am very new at all of this. Just thought I'd ask if it could possibly be slobber.
, but I thought my 7 month old was peeing in the crate, but on further investigation, found that it is an excessive amout of slobber! :rolleyes: She is not used to the crate yet, ( just got her about 2 weeks ago) and when she gets upset, she slobbers ALOT! Her blanket gets soaked with slobber, as well as her front legs, and anything else in the crate. If your dog is peeing in the crate, :confused: I dont' have a clue.... I am very new at all of this. Just thought I'd ask if it could possibly be slobber.
I am POSITIVE it is urine. I checked for the slober factor but his mouth is always dry,and the smell is unmistakable.
A word of advice to you though, don't leave your pup in the crate for very long. If it is slobering that much it will dehydrate, my mother-in-laws boxer did this and after a few days of this the vet told us to never put her in there again or we may come home to a dead pup. She said it doesn't take long for a young dog to dehydrate. We ended up using a baby gate acrossed the laundry room door(of coarse this lasted only until she figured out how to bulldoze down the gate,LOL, gotta love those boxers!!!),this gave her more space so she didn't feel quite so confined. Good luck with your new pup!
A word of advice to you though, don't leave your pup in the crate for very long. If it is slobering that much it will dehydrate, my mother-in-laws boxer did this and after a few days of this the vet told us to never put her in there again or we may come home to a dead pup. She said it doesn't take long for a young dog to dehydrate. We ended up using a baby gate acrossed the laundry room door(of coarse this lasted only until she figured out how to bulldoze down the gate,LOL, gotta love those boxers!!!),this gave her more space so she didn't feel quite so confined. Good luck with your new pup!
I'm glad there is someone else out there with the same problem we're having! In our case, we're dealing with a 5 month old puppy who had been in a crate for at least the past two months and had never set foot on grass!!! (Long story ~ won't go there in this forum!) We've ditched the crate and have him in the smaller of our two kitchens when he's indoors and needs some quiet time. Despite being outside for hours, he waits until he is INSIDE before relieving himself.
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Someone out there please give PAIJJ and I some advice!! Thanks!
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Someone out there please give PAIJJ and I some advice!! Thanks!
Krikkit
Boxer Insane
MOM3
Hi MOM3, in your case it may be an idea to try a few different things. The first is called umbilical cording, which basically is having your pup attached to you at times. Given his age and history this might help you get him used to going outside better than crate training would. Here are a couple of articles about this:
http://www.shirleychong.com/keepers/archives/umbilical.txt
http://www.homevet.com/petcare/puppy3.html#cord
http://www.peaceablepaws.com/faq.htm#9
Another option which can be used is to teach him to ring a bell to go outside. Article on this here:
http://www.clickersolutions.com/clickersolutions/treasures/bell.htm
This article about teaching 'potty' on a cue word might help as well:
http://www.shirleychong.com/keepers/archives/potty.txt
This is a good general article on housetraining:
http://www.clickersolutions.com/clickersolutions/articles/housetrain.htm
Good luck! I'm sure you will get there with him
Sharon
Hi MOM3, in your case it may be an idea to try a few different things. The first is called umbilical cording, which basically is having your pup attached to you at times. Given his age and history this might help you get him used to going outside better than crate training would. Here are a couple of articles about this:
http://www.shirleychong.com/keepers/archives/umbilical.txt
http://www.homevet.com/petcare/puppy3.html#cord
http://www.peaceablepaws.com/faq.htm#9
Another option which can be used is to teach him to ring a bell to go outside. Article on this here:
http://www.clickersolutions.com/clickersolutions/treasures/bell.htm
This article about teaching 'potty' on a cue word might help as well:
http://www.shirleychong.com/keepers/archives/potty.txt
This is a good general article on housetraining:
http://www.clickersolutions.com/clickersolutions/articles/housetrain.htm
Good luck! I'm sure you will get there with him
Sharon
Thanks very much for the great advice, Sharon ~ I really appreciate you getting all those websites together for me. I know that took more than just a quick few minutes and I'm grateful.
PAIJJ, I do hope I didn't step on your question by getting on the bandwagon with my similar problem. If so, I do apologize! :(
PAIJJ, I do hope I didn't step on your question by getting on the bandwagon with my similar problem. If so, I do apologize! :(
Boy, I sure know what you are going through with those puppies. Loke would do that as a pup too, she would do both of her business in the cage it didn't matter. I was constantly getting her out and hosing her down!! Really gross!! I never had that problem with my sheltie. I was so glad when she finally seemed to get the idea of going out, but that first year I was ready to pull my hair out!
You didn't step on my toes,it's nice to know I'm not the only one. I can understand why your dog does it though, I have no idea why Caine does. He doesn't spend that much time in the crate, especially when I'm home during the day. He spends more time in there in the evenings(as do my older 2 dogs) because I babysit and it's too hard to watch 4 kids and 3 dogs!! And worst of all he only seems to do it for me NOT my husband. I really do think this little S_ _t does it for spite!!! (excuse my french, I am slightly frusterated.) He better out grow this soon or I am going to sew a zipper on that thing, and only unzip it when he is outside!!
Sorry, this will be long.
I don't know what kind of advice to offer, but we had the same problem with Jake. We got Jake from a pet store. Big Big mistake. Pet stores keep pups in cages and want them to pee in the cage. So of course, Jake was used to peeing in a cage. Once in a crate, which is much smaller and doesn't have a grate on the botton, he would still pee and poop in his crate. It was horrible. He would also pee five or six times outside, and still pee inside right afterward. I must tell you Jake was a real disaster to house break.
This is what we did. Jake would only go in his crate at night, if we were in the room. So that took care of the night and morning. Then the rest of the day, he went EVERYWHERE with us. He never peed in the car, so thats where he went. We were in school then and while we were in class (usually 1 hour), he was in the car waiting. We got Jake in January, so it was winter and the car never got hot. If we were both at work for too long to keep him in the car, I let him run free in the house. I know that seems gross, but we really didn't have a choice. We would just check the house for accidents and clean up.
We also did the umbilical cord thing. Jake was just tied to me everywhere I went. And of course REWARD. Jake got like a million treats any time we went outside.
Once he started to get older, around 5 months old, we were able to start crating him more, but not for too long. He would just freek out, being crated alone, but did eventually stop going potty in it.
One of the best things we did, was regulate Jake's water in take. We don't have a water dish in the house (and still don't). When ever Jake was thirsty, we would take him outside. Water and peeing has now become associated with outside. That really works well.
It took getting Tobee, for Jake to become house broken (around 8 months old) though. Having Tobee crated next to him, Jake finally got used to the crate. And now even sleeps in it at night, even though we don't put him in it any more.
Tobee was so easy to house break. We still crate both of them during the day, if we are not home. Not due to going to the bathroom, but due to distruction.
Hope this helped some. I am not really sure what worked the best with Jake. I think it was mostly age and Tobee, though.
I don't know what kind of advice to offer, but we had the same problem with Jake. We got Jake from a pet store. Big Big mistake. Pet stores keep pups in cages and want them to pee in the cage. So of course, Jake was used to peeing in a cage. Once in a crate, which is much smaller and doesn't have a grate on the botton, he would still pee and poop in his crate. It was horrible. He would also pee five or six times outside, and still pee inside right afterward. I must tell you Jake was a real disaster to house break.
This is what we did. Jake would only go in his crate at night, if we were in the room. So that took care of the night and morning. Then the rest of the day, he went EVERYWHERE with us. He never peed in the car, so thats where he went. We were in school then and while we were in class (usually 1 hour), he was in the car waiting. We got Jake in January, so it was winter and the car never got hot. If we were both at work for too long to keep him in the car, I let him run free in the house. I know that seems gross, but we really didn't have a choice. We would just check the house for accidents and clean up.
We also did the umbilical cord thing. Jake was just tied to me everywhere I went. And of course REWARD. Jake got like a million treats any time we went outside.
Once he started to get older, around 5 months old, we were able to start crating him more, but not for too long. He would just freek out, being crated alone, but did eventually stop going potty in it.
One of the best things we did, was regulate Jake's water in take. We don't have a water dish in the house (and still don't). When ever Jake was thirsty, we would take him outside. Water and peeing has now become associated with outside. That really works well.
It took getting Tobee, for Jake to become house broken (around 8 months old) though. Having Tobee crated next to him, Jake finally got used to the crate. And now even sleeps in it at night, even though we don't put him in it any more.
Tobee was so easy to house break. We still crate both of them during the day, if we are not home. Not due to going to the bathroom, but due to distruction.
Hope this helped some. I am not really sure what worked the best with Jake. I think it was mostly age and Tobee, though.
Nedra's_momma
Completely Boxer Crazy
How big is your crate and how much of that space are you allowing him to have?
You should be sectioning off your crate so that it is no bigger that what he would need to curl up in a ball and go to sleep. Normally animals NEVER eliminate where they have to sleep. If it is any larger than only what he needs to sleep, he will pick one corner that he knows he won't have to sleep in and pee in it repeatedly.
It is also important that he sees his crate as his "bed". If you are making him sleep in it one night, then letting him sleep with you the next, then leaving him out during the day, he will never see it as his place to sleep and he will pee in it.
I don't know if these might be the problems, but hopefully this helps!
You should be sectioning off your crate so that it is no bigger that what he would need to curl up in a ball and go to sleep. Normally animals NEVER eliminate where they have to sleep. If it is any larger than only what he needs to sleep, he will pick one corner that he knows he won't have to sleep in and pee in it repeatedly.
It is also important that he sees his crate as his "bed". If you are making him sleep in it one night, then letting him sleep with you the next, then leaving him out during the day, he will never see it as his place to sleep and he will pee in it.
I don't know if these might be the problems, but hopefully this helps!
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