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[crowpete]

Yes that is the drug you DO NOT want to use on your boxer. Please if they do not have any other way to sedate him please go to another vet. You can do a search to find out more about ace.

 

[tulips0502]

I searched last night and talked to my Vet today. He was kind of a jerk about it saying how he had 30 years experience as a vet and has always given that drug, in appropriate doses, to Boxers and has never had issues. I was somewhat irritated with his tone - he almost seemed insulted I was asking about it - but...long story short they have it on Barron's chart to no longer give him Ace as they do have an alternative.

 

[lhsdavis]

I have a boy also that is full off energy, he turned 3 in Jan. I had him fixed at the end of last year but he bounced back the next day like nothing happened. I had to practically hog tie him in the house to keep him from injuring himself after his neuter. It seems both my boxers have a high pain tolerance, its crazy. I just wanted to assure you that even though they are high energy they will learn with time when its appropiate to get crazy and when its not. My male knows its chill time in the house but when its time to go outside its time for him to burn about. He has always been so eager to please too, so when he did get in trouble its hard to get on to him because he takes it so bad. I dont think so much as they loose their energy level so much as mature and know what you expect of him. My female, who will be six in December, was a ball of energy until she was about 3, now she only gets crazy after a bath and when its dinner time. She is so funny. She also would get crazy playing with my male. I know having 2 dogs is alot of work, but with boxers it acually took some of the pressure off me, because there is nothing like watching 2 boxers play. I used to take my female over to friends house to play with their dogs too, and she would come back exhausted. I even babysat a friends boxer one time and I dont think they stopped playing for that 24 hours. She slept for 2 days after that.

 

[courtney323]

I searched last night and talked to my Vet today. He was kind of a jerk about it saying how he had 30 years experience as a vet and has always given that drug, in appropriate doses, to Boxers and has never had issues. I was somewhat irritated with his tone - he almost seemed insulted I was asking about it - but...long story short they have it on Barron's chart to no longer give him Ace as they do have an alternative.

It always irks me to hear of this type of reaction from a vet. I would never in a million years act like a jerk to one of my clients (clients who have hired me and are paying me for a service).

After you get through this procedure -- or before -- you should really seek out a new vet. You are the customer and you should not be ridiculed for taking charge of your pet's health and wellbeing.

Besides, this ACE warning is in his Handbook of Veterinary Drugs and all he needs to do is reference that. The warning states:

"Prolonged effects of the drug may be seen in older animals. Giant breeds, as well as greyhounds, appear quite sensitive to the clinical effects of the drug, yet terrier breeds appear more resistant. Boxer dogs, on the other hand, are predisposed to hypotensive and bradycardia effects of the drug."

Good luck

 

[adeinert]

I don't think my husband is going to go for fixing him. He would like to try and breed him once as he'd like to get another one but I just shake my head at the idea given all the work, energy and time we've put into our 18 month old and we still have a ways to go. Plus, my vet telling my husband that fixing him at this age might not make a difference as far as his behavior is concerned didn't help my case that much either. .

Please let me say that if he's this much to handle, first of all he's not got a disposition to choose to pass on. I've had many young males in my house with rescue and sure this is the age they are acting up but so many were not a handful at all. Choosing a dog to be bred depends of rigorous health testings as well as a superb temperment. Georgia's shelters are full of boxers who are put down because there are too many boxers and so many were the product of people breeding pets. Besides, your vet is wrong. In rescue we neuter dogs from age 8 weeks to 12 years and the only differences I ever see are positive in terms of having less dominance, most responsive attitudes. If you think you have problems now, let him fully mature and you may be surprised at the additional issues an out of hand intact male can bring.

If your husband realizes that it offers health and temperment benefits to your boxer, I am sure he'll agree with you to neuter since it's best for the boxer.

Good luck,
Ashlie

 

[adeinert]

I just read the rest of the posts and saw that your vet used ACE on a boxer. I would definitely not take this vet's advice on ACE or that neutering wouldn't help. )o:

 

[Shakira's Ma]

I just read the rest of the posts and saw that your vet used ACE on a boxer. I would definitely not take this vet's advice on ACE or that neutering wouldn't help. )o:

Just exactly what I was here thinking. I do believe that neutering does help in some boxers, and any vet that is so into himself about the ACE thing, I would trade in for a new one.

 

[rbethel]

I can attest to the power of obiedence training and NOW is the time to start. My NA,(white, deaf, female) was a terror. She was like a child, would turn her head and ignore me, destroyed doors, and terrorize our older boxer Ernie. But after a couple weeks of a GOOD training class she became a perfect princess. The wife confessed to me that she had thoughts of opening the door for NA to run away, but now the wife and NA cuddle in bed while I'm at work. Your young man is seeing how far you will let him go.