heart murmers

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glen lyden

Boxer Pal
hi
i have 2 puppies with heart murmers ,3 in scale to 6. I know i will have to spade them but i was wondering what else i can expect as they go through life ? help
 

craZ4HERKIE

Boxer Insane
I know it's a possibility that they may grow out of them....or not.Just hope for the best!Herkie has a heart murmur and he's 4...and it wasn't discovered until he was 2!It answered some questions for us when we found out....like when he would be running with Kuma in the back yard, he would run & run and then stop and watch Kuma run....when he got himself together he would start again.It seemed like he didn't have a lot of endurance.But he's fine....he seems to regulate himself...but there are times when I do feel like I need to slow him down!But he's perfectly normal, but he's also still fairly young...so I too don't really know what to expect when he gets older...I am hoping nothing!
 

Bar B

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If your puppies are very young (being that they have been graded a 3 out of a scale of 6) it is very possible that the condition will advance. Vets have told me that when they are graded at 2 or older, the condition usually remains the same IF heart disease doesnot set in.

My girl Jazz was graded a 3 at 4 years of age. She has an appointment to see a board certified cardiologist on the 22nd of this month just to see if her condition has changed (she will be 8 in May) and if the vet was correct in her findings.

I also lost a brindle girl at 4 months of age due to cardiomyopathy. She had what was thought to be an innocent murmur and her ears were still in the rack just a week or so after cropping.

How old are your babies?
 

kactus

Boxer Booster
hey uk!!

bailey also has a heart murmur. his is graded as 4. hes 9 months oldnow and the only real effect ive seen it have on him is once whne he collapsed in the park after a vigouros game of footie! he also has a leaking tricuspid valve and hes now on beta blockers. 30mg in 3 doses throughout the day. hes been scanned by a specialist and had all the tests and since then hes been fine. the way he explained it to me was that grade 1-2 he can pretty much guarantee that the dog will not develop further complications, 5-6 is really bad news and anywhere inbetween is a 'gray area' it could go either way and the beta blockers are really a preventitive to him developing an irregular beat or further deterioration. his heart is enlarged due to it having had to work harder than normal and the drugs ease the workload of the heart. how old are your babies?? it is relativly 'normal' for a young boxer pup to have some degree of murmur so if they are very young you could well see it decrease in severity or even disapear. in terms of other changes that we've made since his diagnosis, there are very few. i buy low salt peanut butter and treats as i know salts bad for the heart. i recall him and rest for 5 mins every now and ahain on a long walk , and if he wants to rest while exercising (which has only happened twice!!0 then i let him. other than that, hes just a healthy happy mad boxer!! hasnt held him back one little bit so far!!! hope your babies are well!!!
 

glen lyden

Boxer Pal
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Bar B said:
If your puppies are very young (being that they have been graded a 3 out of a scale of 6) it is very possible that the condition will advance. Vets have told me that when they are graded at 2 or older, the condition usually remains the same IF heart disease doesnot set in.

My girl Jazz was graded a 3 at 4 years of age. She has an appointment to see a board certified cardiologist on the 22nd of this month just to see if her condition has changed (she will be 8 in May) and if the vet was correct in her findings.

I also lost a brindle girl at 4 months of age due to cardiomyopathy. She had what was thought to be an innocent murmur and her ears were still in the rack just a week or so after cropping.

How old are your babies?
6 weeks on tuesday, hope Jazz is ok
 

glen lyden

Boxer Pal
thanks

kactus said:
bailey also has a heart murmur. his is graded as 4. hes 9 months oldnow and the only real effect ive seen it have on him is once whne he collapsed in the park after a vigouros game of footie! he also has a leaking tricuspid valve and hes now on beta blockers. 30mg in 3 doses throughout the day. hes been scanned by a specialist and had all the tests and since then hes been fine. the way he explained it to me was that grade 1-2 he can pretty much guarantee that the dog will not develop further complications, 5-6 is really bad news and anywhere inbetween is a 'gray area' it could go either way and the beta blockers are really a preventitive to him developing an irregular beat or further deterioration. his heart is enlarged due to it having had to work harder than normal and the drugs ease the workload of the heart. how old are your babies?? it is relativly 'normal' for a young boxer pup to have some degree of murmur so if they are very young you could well see it decrease in severity or even disapear. in terms of other changes that we've made since his diagnosis, there are very few. i buy low salt peanut butter and treats as i know salts bad for the heart. i recall him and rest for 5 mins every now and ahain on a long walk , and if he wants to rest while exercising (which has only happened twice!!0 then i let him. other than that, hes just a healthy happy mad boxer!! hasnt held him back one little bit so far!!! hope your babies are well!!!
my pups are 6 weeks old
 

glen lyden

Boxer Pal
thanks

kactus said:
bailey also has a heart murmur. his is graded as 4. hes 9 months oldnow and the only real effect ive seen it have on him is once whne he collapsed in the park after a vigouros game of footie! he also has a leaking tricuspid valve and hes now on beta blockers. 30mg in 3 doses throughout the day. hes been scanned by a specialist and had all the tests and since then hes been fine. the way he explained it to me was that grade 1-2 he can pretty much guarantee that the dog will not develop further complications, 5-6 is really bad news and anywhere inbetween is a 'gray area' it could go either way and the beta blockers are really a preventitive to him developing an irregular beat or further deterioration. his heart is enlarged due to it having had to work harder than normal and the drugs ease the workload of the heart. how old are your babies?? it is relativly 'normal' for a young boxer pup to have some degree of murmur so if they are very young you could well see it decrease in severity or even disapear. in terms of other changes that we've made since his diagnosis, there are very few. i buy low salt peanut butter and treats as i know salts bad for the heart. i recall him and rest for 5 mins every now and ahain on a long walk , and if he wants to rest while exercising (which has only happened twice!!0 then i let him. other than that, hes just a healthy happy mad boxer!! hasnt held him back one little bit so far!!! hope your babies are well!!!
thanks you give me great hope
 

glen lyden

Boxer Pal
thanks

Bar B said:
If your puppies are very young (being that they have been graded a 3 out of a scale of 6) it is very possible that the condition will advance. Vets have told me that when they are graded at 2 or older, the condition usually remains the same IF heart disease doesnot set in.

My girl Jazz was graded a 3 at 4 years of age. She has an appointment to see a board certified cardiologist on the 22nd of this month just to see if her condition has changed (she will be 8 in May) and if the vet was correct in her findings.

I also lost a brindle girl at 4 months of age due to cardiomyopathy. She had what was thought to be an innocent murmur and her ears were still in the rack just a week or so after cropping.

How old are your babies?
they are 6 weeks
 
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