Growling concern

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Kelly Robinson

Boxer Booster
Last night, Buster and I were coming up the basement stairs. He saw something under the book case that he wanted. However, I was not in the mood to crawl on the cold floor and get it. He would not go upstairs. I put my hand on his collar to tell him to move upstairs and HE GROWLED AT ME! I immediately made him get into the down position and told him "no. bad boy." This is the second time he has growled at me. About a month ago, I wanted to go to sleep--I tried to take his rawhide away and he growled. I did the same thing--put him in his down position. Is this a matter to be gravely concerned about? Is it common? Does this mean my baby is going to turn into a biter? I am really worried.
 

Puddy

Boxer Buddy
In my opinion a dog that growls at its owner is a dog that I could not trust around anyone. You need to restore order with your dog and let him know who is boss. Dont be afraid of him and you let him know in a loud and stern voice that you dont except this kind of behavior. I dont hit my dogs but I do slap them with a newspaper. They are very durable dogs and a newspaper will not hurt them but for some reason they dont like it when used with a stern voice. That is just what I do, there may be more opinions and options that will work better. Good luck
 

nogoer

Boxer Buddy
im not an expert and this is my opinion, also i dont have much experience but since noone else has seemed to respond ill venture aguess. This sounds like dominance issues. My old family dog was an adoption and she had this problem. We were all kids and none of us could take away arawhide except my mother. I am assuming of course that dogs look at children as equals. Because of that i now make sure i can take anything and everything away from chloe whenever i need to, of course i give it right back, but i want her to know i am boss when it comes to having items. She has never growled or become agreesive, but she is only 10 weeks old. I think what you are doing is going to work in showing buster that you are alpha. I would just be care as to not be too hard, since he might interpret that as confrontational and become dangerous.
 

JulieM

Boxer Insane
Please note that hitting a dog with a newspaper or anything is not a positive training technique, and as such discussion of it is against BoxerWorld rules. Please refresh yourself of the rules you agreed to when joining here: www.boxerworld.com/rules/

Using physical punishment (corrections, whatever you want to call it) with an aggressive dog will only tend to increase the aggression. There are several other, safer, ways to deal with the issue.

To start with, what kind of obedience training are you doing? While I think that the dominance theory is a bunch of malarkey, you do need to establish yourself as someone that your dog can trust and rely on, both for setting guidelines for daily living and in the case of threats, emergencies, illness, etc. You need to work with him on letting you grab his collar - a very threatening thing for a dog - and on resource guarding. www.pawsitivesolution.net has some good information on resource guarding (and probably the other, as well).

Putting him in a down is not a bad idea, but telling him "no" after you do is counter-productive. You've just told him he's a bad boy for obeying your down cue. Regardless of what he did 2 seconds earlier, if you ask him to do something, you cannot correct/reprimand him after he does it. This is the same reason you cannot call a dog to you to punish it - pretty soon they learn that coming to you means Bad Things for Dogs and they won't respond. A solid leave-it and/or recall cue would have worked in this instance, so these are also things you can work on.
 

Chewy's Mom

Boxer Insane
I think you can definitely correct this behavior, and I'd say JulieM had some pretty good advice for you.

Chewy used to growl at us if he was sleeping on the couch or bed and we needed him to move. We would tell him to move or "get down" and he would give us the "yeah, right" look. We would then physically move him (gently of course) and he would growl at us. He was just grumpy when sleepy. Kinda like us! He doesn't do that anymore, though, and I'm guessing it's just because he learned that it doesn't do any good.

Don't be worried that you have an aggressive dog on your hands, or that you won't be able to trust him around people. Just work with him and I'm sure he'll be fine.

Monique
 

coffe

Boxer Pal
I know what you're talking about

My Boxer Coffe use to do that to my daugther she wanted to play with him , and he will get mad at her , so why not ? I slaped
him a cuple times and said no realy loud almost yelling he quit after a few times, let him know you're the boss, never let him see if he scare you. they know.
 

Eric J

Boxer Insane
Originally posted by Chewy's Mom
We would then physically move him (gently of course) and he would growl at us. He was just grumpy when sleepy.

Monique,

HAHAHA, that is how I know it is nap time for Jedi. Everytime he gets an attitude (usually after an hour of play/exercise) I crate him and he is asleep within 2 minutes. Jedi is a sweet dispositioned boy, til he gets tired, then he is a cranky little bonehead.

Coffe, please read what Julie M. said about hitting dogs, 4 posts above yours. It is wrong, period. It teaches your dog to fear you, not to behave. They don't "know" as you posted. Pick up a copy of Culture Clash by Jean Donaldson to have a better understanding of what is running through a dogs mind, it is an amazing read.
 

Mrs. Dog

Boxer Buddy
I don't know if this will help but dexter wears a tab on his collar when we are together in the house or at training class. He also has had some issues in the past about letting me get a hold of his collar when he is on a mission. The tab lets me get a hold of him without grabbing at his collar. Removing things from his mouth have never been a problem.
 
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