Giving up on the breed. Boxers need help

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catcrazy56

Boxer Insane
Yes they are with us for a short time. But there is nothing like a Boxer to make you smile: at their antics, that wrinkled brow, that head tilt, those floppy ears, the woo woo, that little nub and wagging their whole body and those kisses! And when they cuddle up next to you and give that sigh, all is good and right in the world! I have not had that feeling with any other breed. lovicon


This thread must be emotional because reading this thread I am crying wandering how long my 2 will be with me. I had shleties before and they never lived their life expectancy either cancer comes to every breed. Both dh and I agree that we will never own another breed any of us could be gone at any time. I love my 2 so much and cherish everyday with them.
 

UmmasMom

Boxer Buddy
Hi Porpulane,
I do not know whether the German (or other European) boxers do have lesser health problems than American boxers. But they are considered as a breed with a lot of problems and I think basically the same: cancer and heart diseases (and a lot of "minor" problems). If you want to breed within the "Boxer Klub München" you have to test your dog for HD, spondylose and hereditary heart diseases.
 

Paper-Dogg13

Boxer Insane
I don't have any facts to give or anything other than my own two cents...but here it is. I've only had Charlie Paper for just short of 3 years but after having him, I can't imagine not having a boxer in my house. To me, the benefits outweigh the eventual heartache. I think though some breeds are more prone to certain diseases/illnesses they all have something.

"The misery of keeping a dog is his dying so soon...." - Sir Walter Scott

No matter what breed you own, or are passionate about, the truth is, they never live long enough for those that love them.
 

TRUBBLE

Boxer Buddy
I'm so scared! We have two beautiful babes, our girl who we got first is 3yrs but looks about 7 or 8. She has put on a huge amount of weight since we had her speyed & we were given (what I only later found out were steroids) pills for her skin problems...I'm so afraid that her life has been cut short already & she is still so young. My parents were breeding Shepherds from the day I was born but I am still only young & can only remember ever having to say goodbye to 1 dog in my life...that broke my heart & that was nearly 10 yrs ago...I still cant let her go.
How can I help our girl? We are trying to walk & run her even more than what we do but because of her weight she struggles a bit & I dont like to see her struggle. I know theres food out there for weight management etc but plz let there be some miracle cure for this??!! I want us all to have a long & happy life together...I never want that day to come
 

Ranvan

Super Boxer
I totally understand your thinking. And when we lost Annie, I researched every possible breed because I felt that boxers do not live long enough.

What I found is that no other breed filled our "requirements" in our house. Low shed, rough and tumble, enthusiastic, good with kids, and "fierce" looking. Since we have boys, many of those characteristics are necessary. After we got Emma, I did meet an American Bulldog. I may look at one of those next. But truthfully, we all like boxers.

And just because a dog comes from a reputable breeder does not mean the dog lives longer. Annie was 7 and she came from a reputable breeder. She had numerous champions in her lineage. But she was born with one kidney. Her remaining kidney failed at 7. Our new boxer, Emma, comes from BYB lineage. We received her when she was ten months old. Will she live to an old age? Time will tell.

I have to agree with some who said that losing a boxer/dog/pet from death is hard no matter how long they live. What happens when their life is cut short is that we question why it was so short. And when my dog died, I questioned...and still do...what could I have done differently.
 

ELubas

Boxer Insane
I'm so scared! We have two beautiful babes, our girl who we got first is 3yrs but looks about 7 or 8. She has put on a huge amount of weight since we had her speyed & we were given (what I only later found out were steroids) pills for her skin problems...I'm so afraid that her life has been cut short already & she is still so young. My parents were breeding Shepherds from the day I was born but I am still only young & can only remember ever having to say goodbye to 1 dog in my life...that broke my heart & that was nearly 10 yrs ago...I still cant let her go.
How can I help our girl? We are trying to walk & run her even more than what we do but because of her weight she struggles a bit & I dont like to see her struggle. I know theres food out there for weight management etc but plz let there be some miracle cure for this??!! I want us all to have a long & happy life together...I never want that day to come

Hi. I would check her thyroid and if that is ok then you need to manage her food. Search for the thread on food analysis here and pick the best quality food you can, transition her to it, and be SURE to not overfeed. Is she off the steroids? There are a lot of ways to deal with skin problems that may not require steroids (not judging-my boy was on them for a while too :) ). It is a myth that spay and neuter guaruntees weight gain. So do your baby a favor and help her get that weight off (Wish someone could do that for me ) and get her walking, playing, etc. Good luck
 

dalefuller

Boxer Buddy
Re: Weight gain

TRUBBLE...

Your vet should certainly check her thyroid and also check for any other condition that might cause her to gain this much weight. We've never experienced any uncontrolled weight gain when our girls were spayed, so it's not inevitable.

If she does have skin problems that are not parasite related (demodex or scabies), they may be allergy related. Those can be controlled through diet in many or even most cases, so medications are not always necessary (or helpful). A high quality commercial diet in the right proportions, or even better, a high quality raw diet in the right proportions, along with adequate exercise, can work wonders for weight control and skin/coat condition.

You might also want to get a second opinion on her condition(s) from a holistic vet, if you can find one that is available to you. We frequently get second or even third opinions if something is serious enough, even though we have a great deal of confidence in our primary care vet.

Also, while it's true that Boxers are particularly suceptible to a range of serious conditions, there are things that can be done to reduce the risk for some of these conditions, and tests can determine the likelihood of others. For instance, our Boxer and our Dobermann just returned from hospital yesterday where they had their semi-annual echocardiogram and holter monitor application. The echo will test several features of heart construction / condition as well as blood flow and possible leakage. The holter monitor will measure heart rhythm over a 24-hour period in various stages of rest and exercise. If these conditions are present, they can be monitored more closely and medical intervention is frequently successful in helping regulate a rhythm or blood flow problem. We have first-hand experience with managing a heart condition and it never bothered her at all once we got her on proper medication.

Cancer screening is also possible, although it is less effective than cardio workups in telling you what may be coming up with your Boxer and IIRC, it has to be repeated whenever you want a current update (it's not a one-time for the life of your dog test).

None of this is cheap. Each person has to decide what they can afford to do, but I mention these things to say that there is some medical help available from vet science, both holistic and traditional. Before you get too scared, find out what's really going on and what you can do to correct it.

BTW, some of the less expensive things you can do to help are nutritional. Make sure that their water source is pure... no "additives" like flouride or chlorine and no impurities. Use bottled water if you aren't sure about your domestic water source. Avoid chemicals in the yard or around the house that are not organic or natural. You can make your own soap from things like vegetable oil, olive oil, coconut oil, and Apple Cider Vinegar. Avoid pesticides and use natural fertilizer. Use a natural organic shampoo on the dogs instead of one with an insecticde it. Restrict vaccinations to those that are necessary as shown by tests (titers), rather than having a vaccination "cocktail" administered annually.

Sorry to be so long-winded, but you sounded a little panicked and I just wanted to give you a list of things that you can actually control that can help increase at least the quality of your dog's life, and possibly the length of it also. I lost my first Boxer two years ago to cancer. I still live with three dogs, including a rescue Boxer (normal cardio and no signs of CA so far at 5 YO), but there's not a week goes by that I don't sit and cry for her and beat myself up for not doing more than I did. Since then, I've learned a lot about what I can and can't do to help them. So I know where you're comin' from.

Best wishes to you and yours...
 
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porpulane

Boxer Buddy
Hi Porpulane,
I do not know whether the German (or other European) boxers do have lesser health problems than American boxers. But they are considered as a breed with a lot of problems and I think basically the same: cancer and heart diseases (and a lot of "minor" problems). If you want to breed within the "Boxer Klub München" you have to test your dog for HD, spondylose and hereditary heart diseases.

Thanks UmmasMom for replying. So, you would think that with the "Boxer Klub München" testing going on in order to breed, that the breed should be seeing improvements in those particular blood lines.

I wounder if there is improvment? I've always heard that the German bloodline does testing for at least 2 years before you can breed.
 
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