Do i need a behaviourist/one to one trainer?

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Vicky Scott

Boxer Buddy
Hi everyone,

I wonder if anyone can offer me some advice??? I've posted on here a few times, but i think this is my biggest challenge, and i'm wondering whether i need some professional advice from a behaviourist???

Ellie is my white/brindle boxer she is almost 11 months old and i love her with all my heart.

In my opinion Ellie has always seemed a little dominant, but this seems to have got worse over the past few months. Ellie had to have an operation in September due to being born with Osteochondrosis, the surgery was just awful but nothing prepared us for the following weeks. Poor Ellie had to be shut in a crate for about 12 weeks and only coming out for short periods of time to rebuild the muscles in both of her front legs.

As you can imagine we spoilt Ellie quite alot, which i don't regret, my poor baby suffered a great deal of pain and frustration. Ellie's legs are healing well and she is now able to go off lead for 5 mins in the park, which she loves. The problem is i've got to walk her about an hour once a day and other short walks if possible to strengthen her legs up, but she seems to have developed some strange behaviours.. ie. She bites her lead really bad after about 15 mins and i don't mean just a little, i mean a full war with the lead. I've tried ignoring her, this doesn't work, if i tell her off she things i'm playing, if i take the lead out of her mouth she gets more fired up, and distracting her doesn't work either???????? This is my first problem, i really don't know what else to do and it is so so so important that i walk her but it is proving to be almost impossible!!!!!

Next problem... When we go out Ellie has always been left in the kitchen, when she was younger she was alway in her crate but for the last month or so we have just left her in the kitchen with her bed. She has until recently been very good. Ellie always has a walk before we go out and she has a mountain of toys and bones. We are only ever gone for a max of 5 hours, but over the last week we have come home to find that she has eaten chunks out of the door?! Why has she started this now at 11 months old? What do i do? If i take the door off and put a gate up then i feel she isn't going to learn. I don't want to have to go back to crating her again, i want to give her freedom. She is left in the kitchen all night and doesn't do a thing??!!

Last thing is.. and i'm so sorry this is so long, but it feels so great to be able to get all of this off my chest.. Ellie doesn't really take a blind bit of notice when we tell her off, she turns everything into a game. She barks quite a lot and sometime i ignore her as thats what i've been advised and my neighbours phone to make sure everything is ok as she just barks for ages no matter what i do. She never knows when to stop when playing, and she tends to bite a little when over excited.. although i must say she doesn't bite hard.

I feel this is all down to all that she has been through, i didn't really have the opportunity to train her as i had been when she was a small puppy and she has been over spoilt, but i'm not sure how to correct everything.

Sorry this is so long, but i'm going to sleep well tonight knowing that someone out there will have an answer to at least one of my problems.

Thank you for reading this and i hope to hear from you soon. Please feel free to be honest with me, and tell me if you think i need some professional help.

Kind regards,

Vicky & Ellie xxxxx
 

Evie&Adam

Boxer Insane
I'm glad to hear she is healing well. To me- it sounds like you just need to go back to the basics as if she were a puppy. You lost alot of training time while she had the surgery and recovery.

best wishes!
 

ulbsterx

Boxer Booster
starting over

I agree that it sounds like you might need to go back to basics. I understand your frustration because Reznor does/did alot of the things that you described. Also, because of everything that all of you went thru w/ her surgery and recovery, she easily could have "unlearned" what you taught her before this happened. It sounds like you are doing a good job. I am sorry that you have to go thru this, but I am glad that she is recovering.
Of all the books that I've read, "The Dog Whisperer" advice seems to work the best for Reznor. We really have tried almost everything. He even went to a "training camp" type thing last summer. He was great when he came home but soon was in charge again. Long story short, in our home it is my fault that he thinks he is in charge and thus requires almost constant attention. Could any of this be related to medication that she takes or took? Just was another thought that I had. Take care and good luck.
 

BeckyNC

Boxer Insane
Vicky--your girl sound a lot like an adolescent Boxer. It sounds as if she's playing with the leash and talking back when you tell her "off." I miss Tae's "talk back" days! When she takes the leash in her mouth, have you tried to distract her with a yummy treat? Maybe carry some with you (liver treats, pieces of cheese, or hotdog) and everytime she exercises this behavior, distract her with a treat. Eventually she will stop...at least that's my bet, though I am no expert.

Regarding the destruction in the kitchen, Ii'd bet Ellie is either bored or has a little separation anxiety. Can you leave her in the crate instead of the kitchen? That's what I'd do.

I'm not sure this situation calls for a behaviorist. You may be able to get by with the suggestions here on BW. Behaviorists are $$, and I speak from experience. I have been working with one b/c Tae has some anxiety issue and cannot be crated. She goes potty in the house EVERY day after I leave for work. Anyhow, that's another story!

Becky
 

harleyboxer

Super Boxer
your dog just has a lot of pent up energy and can't control it anymore. Horses do the same thing if they are laid up for awhile. It's just like when you're stuck in the house and want to go somewhere, but can't. Now magnify that by how long your dog hasn't been allowed to play and you have one fried dog. It will just take some time and after she is able to play for awhile she should go back to normal.
 

boxer

Boxer Insane
Sounds very much like an adolescent boxer to me too :) But no doubt the missed training when she was younger has contributed. LOL - adolescents are notorious for appearing to 'forget' any training they've had - but they don't really, they're simply testing boundaries. Without the basic training in the first place though... well, they are understandably a bit wild.

To be honest, what most trainers are really doing is not training your dog, but training YOU to train your dog. It would be of great benefit for you to enrol yourself and Ellie in basic, then more advanced obedience courses. If she's had to be crated a lot, then she's also missed out on a lot of socialisation opportunities too.

If that doesn't work for you, or you really feel you need 'more' - well you're in the right country for enrolling yourself in one of the behaviour seminars run by Jan Fennell (of The Dog Listener fame). Her website is www.janfennellthedoglistener.com
 
I agree with everyone else--it sounds like you have a young, energetic boxer on your hands! It sounds like she is still somewhat limited with her physical activity, so she has a lot of pent-up energy and no real way to get rid of it. Poor girl!

Toffee still plays like that with her leash some of the time and she's 4 now. If I tell her "enough" she quits, but for her it's just a way of playing when we're on walks.

I would go back to the basics with her, using positive reinforcement. Treats are usually helpful :)

When you leave the house, try to leave things that will keep her entertained--hide a few treats for her to find, give her a kong with peanut butter in it, or give her a new toy. And even though you might not want to go back to the crate, for now it might be the best thing for Ellie. Once she settles in again, you can try her without the crate.

I'd try some of the ideas here and see where they get you. Good luck!
 

Vicky Scott

Boxer Buddy
A big thank you xxx

THANK YOU SO SO SO SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR ADVICE... I WILL GIVE IT ALL AGO AND LET YOU KNOW!!

Kind regards,

Vicky & Ellie xxxxxx
 

cody&duke

Banned
I am also glad that Ellie is feeling better. I just wanted to let you know that Duke, almost 10 months, is having some of the same behavior problems you describe. So it is just not your Ellie! Duke's new thing is just barking at you constantly, I can play with him, throw his ball, walk him, ignore him, etc and. he will just bark at me! From other posts I think it is just their teenage years. Ahh!!

Everyones posts and suggestions will help me as well!

Good Luck!
 
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