Breed that gets a long with boxers?

[TwoDogs]

Thanks everybody for the replies. I never thought about the Westie and they looked really great, until I started to read some of the issues with Small Dog Syndrome, which most of the small breeds seem to have.

Personally, I think that Small Dog Syndrome is largely owner created behavior. In general, people tolerate things from small dogs that they would never tolerate from larger dogs. Things like jumping, pulling on leash, mouthyness, etc. could all land a large dog in a shelter, but because small dogs literally don't have as much weight to throw around, these same behaviors often get overlooked. Couple that with the fact that smaller dogs are more likely to be treated as babies because of their size, less apt to be seen as the instigators of fights, and certainly now-a-days treated more like an accessory than an animal, it's no wonder we're seeing more and more small dogs with poor behaviors.

Small dogs still need training, socialization, and to be treated like a dog. I think if more owners of small dogs treated them just as they would larger dogs and expected the same behavior from them, there wouldn't be so much of the "syndrome" going around.

 

[lkscooter]

Beagle mix

We have a beagle/boston mix who is about 30 lbs and can hang with the big dogs. He hasn't met a boxer he doesn't like. However, he does shed. But he doesn't bark much at all and has the most mellow personality, but loves to play.
And I also completely agree about the "Small Dog Syndrome" post above. I see this every time I go to the dog park.

 

[kathysboxer]

Tyson's best friend is a beagle/dashound mix. They get along great!! They don't even do play growling!! They will chase each other, roll and bite at each other, all in "play mode."
Tyson also has a lab and a shitz tzu he plays with. He loves playing with the lab, because he is bigger, but he has a blast playing with the shitz tzu also.
I would research whatever breed you're considering before buying one

 

[fryguy]

So far Charlie gets along with pits and shepherds the best. They seem to play at the same level. Charlie is a contact player. He loves to get other dogs in headlocks and stuff. Most other dogs dont like that and so far only the pits and sheperds will accept it and play back.

 

[jboboxer]

Personally, I think that Small Dog Syndrome is largely owner created behavior. In general, people tolerate things from small dogs that they would never tolerate from larger dogs. Things like jumping, pulling on leash, mouthyness, etc. could all land a large dog in a shelter, but because small dogs literally don't have as much weight to throw around, these same behaviors often get overlooked. Couple that with the fact that smaller dogs are more likely to be treated as babies because of their size, less apt to be seen as the instigators of fights, and certainly now-a-days treated more like an accessory than an animal, it's no wonder we're seeing more and more small dogs with poor behaviors.

Small dogs still need training, socialization, and to be treated like a dog. I think if more owners of small dogs treated them just as they would larger dogs and expected the same behavior from them, there wouldn't be so much of the "syndrome" going around.

You don't think maybe it's a mix of both owner and the breed? My uncle has a pomeranian that just tries to bit at your feet and if I was a pomeranian, then I can see a huge foot coming at you that is bigger than you as a threat, while a boxer or a bigger dog won't care as much. It doesn't seem like it's just my uncles dogs, but a lot of little dogs just seem to want to snap at feet more.

 

[jboboxer]

Thanks everybody for your feedback. I enjoy reading the dogs that your boxers get a long with. I was mostly trying to see that if I got a certain breed that it would be compatible with another breed.
I've always read that if you have a female boxer, it's better to get the opposite sex second dog, but didn't hear that at all in any post, so maybe that part isn't true.

I think the bottle line is getting the next dog as a puppy, but my boxer might not be still a puppy by the time I get the second one.

The reason I didn't get two at once is that I was under the impression it's easier to train two dogs seperately. That is one is housebroken, doesn't chew up things as much anymore and listens well that the second one follows the leadership a little bit better.

Roxy is about 4 months old and she still pees inside 20-30% of the time, but poops outside 95% or more of the time. I just can't imagine having to clean up and try to train two at once, so I was really hoping the second one would be easier and would follow direction from the older trained puppy?

 

[Tagsmom]

Ss.........really long

ok, I am coming at this question from the standpoint of a dog groomer for almost 20 years.

There are no "hypoallergenic" breeds, I really don't care what anyone says. All dogs have saliva (and may lick, putting the saliva on the hair, and then scratch which spreads it), all dogs have dander (some more than others, a lot of times as a result of diet), and all dogs shed (just a matter of do they shed it off, and all over everything...like boxers, labs, beagles, etc. or do they hold it, and get matted.....like poodles, bedlingtons, soft coated wheatens, etc.)

As far as your list goes, you are looking for something smaller than a boxer. I understand that, although I live in a 16x65 mobile home and have had my boxer and her sister in my house.....both @ 50 lb and have had no problem with them playing......they play with how much room they have. Sure, they LOVE to have more room to play, but they wear each other out in the room they have. So, back to the list......

American Hairless Terrier--never heard of, have no opinion
Basenj --makes horrible howling noise, double coat, major shedding at least 2x/yr
Bedlington Terrier--lots of grooming care (brushing, trimming), don't know much else
Bergamasco--never heard of, have no opinion
Bichon Frise--lots of grooming care (brushing, trimming), can be snippy and barky
Bichon/Yorkie--mixed breed....never know what you are gonna end up with
Bolognese--not familiar with, have heard of
Border Terrier--possibly good choice, some grooming, wire-haired (fair amount of grooming)
Bouvier des Flandres--larger than a boxer
Cairn Terrier--possible good choice, some grooming, terrier attitude
Cavachon--not familiar with, no opinion
Chacy Ranior--never heard of, no opinion
Chinese Crested (hairless)--too small, too fragile
Cockapoo--mixed breed, never know what you are gonna end up with
Coton De Tulear--small, tons of brushing needed to keep from getting matted
Doodleman Pinscher--never heard of, no opinion
Giant Schnauzer--bigger than a boxer.....much bigger, but very, very cool dogs
Hairless Khala--never heard of, no opinion
Havanese--small, tons of brushing needed to keep from matting
Irish Water Spaniel--@ same size as boxer or lab, shedding probably about the same
Kerry Blue Terrier--@ same size as boxer, grooming required
Labradoodle--mixed breed, never know what you are gonna end up with
Lagotto Romagnolo--never heard of, no opinion
Lowchen (Little Lion Dog)--small, grooming required (daily brushing, regular groomer visits)
Maltese--too small, grooming required (daily brushing, regular groomer visits)
Malti-Poo--mixed breed, never know what you are gonna end up with
Miniature Poodle--possible good choice, need regular brushing and groomer visits for trim
Miniature Schnauzer--possible good choice, need regular brushing and groom visits for trim
Peruvian Inca Orchid--not familiar, no opinion
Polish Owczarek Nizinny--lots of brushing, probably would not play well with boxer
Poos--mixed breeds, never know what you are going to end up with
Portuguese Water Dog--same size or bigger than boxer, regular grooming required
Puli (Pulik)--only thing I know is major grooming required, whether corded or not
Schnoodle--mixed breeds, never know what you are going to end up with
Shepadoodle--mixed breeds, never know what you are going to end up with
Shichon--mixed breeds, never know what you are going to end up with
Shih-Tzu--small, grooming required (brushing and trimming)
Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier--good size, grooming required
Spanish Water Dog--not familiar with, no opinion
Standard Poodle--larger than boxer, very cool dogs though
Standard Schnauzer--could be larger than boxer, could be same size, regular grooming visits
Tibetan Terrier--needs brushed every couple days
Toy Poodle--too small to play with boxer
West Highland White Terrier--could be good choice, consider terrier attitude, grooming req.
Wirehaired Fox Terrier--could be good choice, consider terrier attitude, grooming required
Xoloitzcuintle--not familiar with, no opinion
Yorkshire Terrier--too small to play with boxer

I agree with TwoDogs, to stay away from the herding breeds. Also, not all maltese are yappy, but that is WAY too small of dog to play with a boxer. As far as "small dog syndrome", you can't have something really small and have a boxer unless they are ALWAYS totally supervised. And the barking, yapping, and nipping is an individual dog thing that you are only going to be able to control if you get the 2nd dog as a pup and do a lot of training or get the 2nd dog as an adult and know it's behavior around bigger dogs/people/experiences. As far as the pomeranians go.....I have worked for a pom breeder for all my grooming experience (she has @30 poms now) and VERY few of hers behave in the way you speak of your uncle's behaving.

I, too, have heard all the male/female talk and I don't know if it is because our girls are sisters.......but, my female boxer plays wonderfully with the female Rottie next door......so not so sure how much of that is the female/female thing and how much is reliant on the individual dog.

Even after you get a new puppy, whatever the breed, it will need to be confined when you are not there, just as your boxer was. Just because there is an "adult" dog to "teach" it, doesn't mean that a baby can hold it's bladder, not chew stuff, etc. like your adult. My girl was over 1 yr old when she wasn't getting me up in the middle of the night to go potty.

Best of luck to you whatever you choose..........and sorry this was so long, but really just trying to help you make the best decision.

 

[ninjakev]

I don't know if you can get Scottish Terriers in the USA, but that's what we've got along with Brian. We actually had Morag (the Scottie) first and got Brian as a companian for her - they hit it off from day one; they are best buddies and totally inseparable.

Scotties do not shed their coat and have very low dander.

As far as Small Dog Syndrome, we have never had a problem with Morag, but I think as others have mentioned it is the owner which tends to reinforce that kind of behaviour through their actions.

Anyway, here's a recent photo of the two of them after Morag had been to the parlour for a haircut..............

 

[jboboxer]

ok, I am coming at this question from the standpoint of a dog groomer for almost 20 years.

There are no "hypoallergenic" breeds, I really don't care what anyone says. All dogs have saliva (and may lick, putting the saliva on the hair, and then scratch which spreads it), all dogs have dander (some more than others, a lot of times as a result of diet), and all dogs shed (just a matter of do they shed it off, and all over everything...like boxers, labs, beagles, etc. or do they hold it, and get matted.....like poodles, bedlingtons, soft coated wheatens, etc.)

As far as your list goes, you are looking for something smaller than a boxer. I understand that, although I live in a 16x65 mobile home and have had my boxer and her sister in my house.....both @ 50 lb and have had no problem with them playing......they play with how much room they have. Sure, they LOVE to have more room to play, but they wear each other out in the room they have. So, back to the list......

American Hairless Terrier--never heard of, have no opinion
Basenj --makes horrible howling noise, double coat, major shedding at least 2x/yr
Bedlington Terrier--lots of grooming care (brushing, trimming), don't know much else
Bergamasco--never heard of, have no opinion
Bichon Frise--lots of grooming care (brushing, trimming), can be snippy and barky
Bichon/Yorkie--mixed breed....never know what you are gonna end up with
Bolognese--not familiar with, have heard of
Border Terrier--possibly good choice, some grooming, wire-haired (fair amount of grooming)
Bouvier des Flandres--larger than a boxer
Cairn Terrier--possible good choice, some grooming, terrier attitude
Cavachon--not familiar with, no opinion
Chacy Ranior--never heard of, no opinion
Chinese Crested (hairless)--too small, too fragile
Cockapoo--mixed breed, never know what you are gonna end up with
Coton De Tulear--small, tons of brushing needed to keep from getting matted
Doodleman Pinscher--never heard of, no opinion
Giant Schnauzer--bigger than a boxer.....much bigger, but very, very cool dogs
Hairless Khala--never heard of, no opinion
Havanese--small, tons of brushing needed to keep from matting
Irish Water Spaniel--@ same size as boxer or lab, shedding probably about the same
Kerry Blue Terrier--@ same size as boxer, grooming required
Labradoodle--mixed breed, never know what you are gonna end up with
Lagotto Romagnolo--never heard of, no opinion
Lowchen (Little Lion Dog)--small, grooming required (daily brushing, regular groomer visits)
Maltese--too small, grooming required (daily brushing, regular groomer visits)
Malti-Poo--mixed breed, never know what you are gonna end up with
Miniature Poodle--possible good choice, need regular brushing and groomer visits for trim
Miniature Schnauzer--possible good choice, need regular brushing and groom visits for trim
Peruvian Inca Orchid--not familiar, no opinion
Polish Owczarek Nizinny--lots of brushing, probably would not play well with boxer
Poos--mixed breeds, never know what you are going to end up with
Portuguese Water Dog--same size or bigger than boxer, regular grooming required
Puli (Pulik)--only thing I know is major grooming required, whether corded or not
Schnoodle--mixed breeds, never know what you are going to end up with
Shepadoodle--mixed breeds, never know what you are going to end up with
Shichon--mixed breeds, never know what you are going to end up with
Shih-Tzu--small, grooming required (brushing and trimming)
Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier--good size, grooming required
Spanish Water Dog--not familiar with, no opinion
Standard Poodle--larger than boxer, very cool dogs though
Standard Schnauzer--could be larger than boxer, could be same size, regular grooming visits
Tibetan Terrier--needs brushed every couple days
Toy Poodle--too small to play with boxer
West Highland White Terrier--could be good choice, consider terrier attitude, grooming req.
Wirehaired Fox Terrier--could be good choice, consider terrier attitude, grooming required
Xoloitzcuintle--not familiar with, no opinion
Yorkshire Terrier--too small to play with boxer

I agree with TwoDogs, to stay away from the herding breeds. Also, not all maltese are yappy, but that is WAY too small of dog to play with a boxer. As far as "small dog syndrome", you can't have something really small and have a boxer unless they are ALWAYS totally supervised. And the barking, yapping, and nipping is an individual dog thing that you are only going to be able to control if you get the 2nd dog as a pup and do a lot of training or get the 2nd dog as an adult and know it's behavior around bigger dogs/people/experiences. As far as the pomeranians go.....I have worked for a pom breeder for all my grooming experience (she has @30 poms now) and VERY few of hers behave in the way you speak of your uncle's behaving.

I, too, have heard all the male/female talk and I don't know if it is because our girls are sisters.......but, my female boxer plays wonderfully with the female Rottie next door......so not so sure how much of that is the female/female thing and how much is reliant on the individual dog.

Even after you get a new puppy, whatever the breed, it will need to be confined when you are not there, just as your boxer was. Just because there is an "adult" dog to "teach" it, doesn't mean that a baby can hold it's bladder, not chew stuff, etc. like your adult. My girl was over 1 yr old when she wasn't getting me up in the middle of the night to go potty.

Best of luck to you whatever you choose..........and sorry this was so long, but really just trying to help you make the best decision.

I have read that many people disagree about dogs that are good for allergies. I know AKC had a list on their website and took it down and then there's the studies that say it's the dander and saliva that are the major issues. I've seen lists of some dogs that are low shedders, but they don't make the list of low dander. The poodle I know is on the list of low dander and low shedding.

I know what your saying about the dogs all shed and it depends if you want it on the floor or all over the house or on the dog. I ran into a person who had a boxer dog and they told me they have owned a bichon and a Maltese before. They currently have a Bichon and a boxer and they were telling me that they noticed that most people who have allergies from dogs don't seem to have allergies around their bichon. They told me though that the shedding is just really stuck to their coat, so you have to brush them daily.
So with some of these dogs it seems like I might not have hair all over the house, but it's going to require more grooming.

As far as saliva and allergies, I've read that the dogs that stay clean for the most part won't lick themselves as much, which is common in certain breeds and the dogs that bark all the time will have their saliva fly and higher increase in allergies.

The size of the dog like a maltese it's not that I also think they might be a little too small to play with boxers, but I don't want to get in the habit of picking up a little dog and putting it on my lap and then punishing my boxer when he tries to jump up on the couch. I'd like to treat them both the same and I see myself more likely to do this with a small to medium size dog. Something smaller than a boxer, but bigger than a lap dog. The size I have in mind is the spitz, since I've been around them most of my life, but their shedding and temporment isn't something I'm looking for, just their size would be ideal.

I have a decent size back yard for her to run around in, but I guess it would be nice to throw a frisby or something.

The next puppy I get I'm going to try and schedule 3 weeks of vacation, because I learned some of my mistakes with this puppy that I only took off one week and the following week I only worked half days, but I think I'm better off taking 3 weeks of vacation or at least 2 weeks.

The people who just got a boxer puppy that I was telling you about earlier also told me that the boxer is the fastest learning dog they have ever owned and were really amazed how smart their boxer was, but they are also having problems with their boxer puppy peeing in the house. I'm guessing maybe boxers take a little bit longer than other breeds, while some might take even longer.
My family has had Spitz and Huskies and they used to breed huskies and on average all their puppies would take 1-2 weeks, but that doesn't include slip ups. Roxy is just starting to know she gets a reward if she goes outside and is in trouble if we catch her inside. But the ironic thing is that she won't hold it, sometimes she tries to sneak a little pee in a corner when nobody is looking.

 

[jboboxer]

I don't know if you can get Scottish Terriers in the USA, but that's what we've got along with Brian. We actually had Morag (the Scottie) first and got Brian as a companian for her - they hit it off from day one; they are best buddies and totally inseparable.

Scotties do not shed their coat and have very low dander.

As far as Small Dog Syndrome, we have never had a problem with Morag, but I think as others have mentioned it is the owner which tends to reinforce that kind of behaviour through their actions.

Anyway, here's a recent photo of the two of them after Morag had been to the parlour for a haircut..............

Thanks for sharing the pic
Nice looking dogs
If it's hard to get in the US, I wonder the price would be. It seems like if I get a dog that's on the top 20 list or so, then it's 600 or less dollars. A friend of mine had their friend fly from puerto rico to Florida to stay with them, because they were going to pick up some type of hybrid dog that cost almost 3,000 dollars.