My husband and I started considering a boxer awhile back (they are my husbands first breed pick) and after looking for reasonable priced, healty puppies for what seemed like an eternity we finally found a breeder we really like. She is not planning on having any pups available until around July or August, maybe later. In our long drawn out search I found my first choice (a red english bulldog) at an unbelievable bargain. After two days of whining I was able to get him. Our problem/question stems from this. We want to add a boxer to our family because we do both really love the breed. Our male dog is now five months old and we are trying to decide whether we should get an older boxer-like at least a year old, or wait for a puppy which will make Jeevs around 8mos old. Also since he is and will remain an unneutered male should we get a male or a female boxer (which will be spayed or neutered)? Also I really like the white boxers which everyone is telling me to stay away from? If any one has a white I would love to hear your experiences. Any help/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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My husband's first boxer was white. His mom and dad were both completly white also. They were healthy dogs and i don't believe in staying away from white boxers personally. he was a GREAT dog. He did get sunburned easier though, and when we took him to the park or something we had to rub him down with sun screen. but he was a doll. I would suggest getting a pup because they are SOOO much fun. Plus, your bulldog would be able to adjust to it getting larger and the pup could adjust to the smaller dog. I say this becasue I had a Cocker Spaniel when we brought Sayde home and never had a problem with her trying to be dominant because of her size. Also, I would suggest a female if you spay her. They do not get as large and I think I had an easier time with my female than my male. I love him to death, but he is such a clutz and I learned the hard was to not leave anything glass or breakable within his reach! Good Luck on your hunt for a puppy and have fun on the boards!
boxergirl25
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Hi, I have two white boxers and they are my babies! They do not have any health problems so far. Some people say white boxers can become deaf easier. But my babies have all the same qualities as any other boxer, but they are just white.
Kane and Able, white
Kane and Able, white
Storri
Boxer Insane
Whites are WONDERFUL...why would you want to stay away from one 
. Some say they are sicker, but I do not believe there is any info out there to back that up. They are just as much a Boxer as any other color. I personally believe their skin is a little more sensitive (at least mine is) but he is the best dog ever and I would get another one all over again.
As far as your first ? I do not have an answer to that one and I wish you the best of luck on your search.
. Some say they are sicker, but I do not believe there is any info out there to back that up. They are just as much a Boxer as any other color. I personally believe their skin is a little more sensitive (at least mine is) but he is the best dog ever and I would get another one all over again.As far as your first ? I do not have an answer to that one and I wish you the best of luck on your search.
TigersMommy.
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Mikki,
We got Tiger when he was 8 weeks old. The first 4 weeks of his time with us, he was around my future brother-in-law's 2 English Bulldogs. The female, Mackie (6yo), and male, Jake (3yo). Both of them where un-altered. Mackie took to Tiger like her son, and Tiger gave her the much needed excercise that she was lacking! They where absolutely great together. Jake loved Tiger too in his own calm way. Tiger was constintly hanging off of Jake's jowls!
But at bed time, Jake (the biggest), would lie down on the floor, Mackie would down with her bum somewhere on his body, and Tiger would find the warm, nook in between them.
Every other weekend, we bring Tiger over to visit his cousins. He loves them so much!!! I think if you get a boxer puppy, you will be fine! Good luck!
We got Tiger when he was 8 weeks old. The first 4 weeks of his time with us, he was around my future brother-in-law's 2 English Bulldogs. The female, Mackie (6yo), and male, Jake (3yo). Both of them where un-altered. Mackie took to Tiger like her son, and Tiger gave her the much needed excercise that she was lacking! They where absolutely great together. Jake loved Tiger too in his own calm way. Tiger was constintly hanging off of Jake's jowls!
But at bed time, Jake (the biggest), would lie down on the floor, Mackie would down with her bum somewhere on his body, and Tiger would find the warm, nook in between them.
Every other weekend, we bring Tiger over to visit his cousins. He loves them so much!!! I think if you get a boxer puppy, you will be fine! Good luck!
Alisha Mobley
Boxer Insane
Hi Mikki
It looks like we're not too far away.
White Boxers do sunburn eaily and the reason for the deafness is believed to be the lack of pigmentation in the ears (which they are born deaf...they don't become deaf later). Have you looked into rescue? If your wanting an older Boxer a rescue would be a great place (doesn't hurt to check for pups either). If you have your heart set on a pup be careful when searching for a breeder. Avoid any Breeder who is trying to produce whites purposly and who tries to sell them at elevated prices saying they are rare. You want a breeder who is breeding for the right reasons. Only buy from a breeder who has health checked the parents and has proof. OFA certified hips, elbows, thyroids, and heart evaluations are the main tests to look for. Hope you find what your looking for.
It looks like we're not too far away.
White Boxers do sunburn eaily and the reason for the deafness is believed to be the lack of pigmentation in the ears (which they are born deaf...they don't become deaf later). Have you looked into rescue? If your wanting an older Boxer a rescue would be a great place (doesn't hurt to check for pups either). If you have your heart set on a pup be careful when searching for a breeder. Avoid any Breeder who is trying to produce whites purposly and who tries to sell them at elevated prices saying they are rare. You want a breeder who is breeding for the right reasons. Only buy from a breeder who has health checked the parents and has proof. OFA certified hips, elbows, thyroids, and heart evaluations are the main tests to look for. Hope you find what your looking for.
Thanks guys. As for looking for a breeder it was all the health checks that we were having troubles with. We talked to some of the worst people you could imagine who were our to make a buck and it was obvious. One couple was trying to place their pups by five weeks and they were keeping them in a cold barn. We finally found a lady in northern Indiana who shows and has some of the best looking healthy pups we have found. She really knows what she's doing and her love for the breed really impressed us. We have considered rescues and that is where my questions about age were stemming from. We are trying to decide on rescue or one of her pups. I will keep you informed.
Alisha-When we get ours we'll have to get them together for playtime. You aren't that far.
Alisha-When we get ours we'll have to get them together for playtime. You aren't that far.
We have a white boxer that I got from the shelter in August of last year, he was probably about a year old when we got him. He's very puppy like still. Rescue groups here seem to have a lot of white boxers, I'm not sure about in other places though.
He's fine health wise, no deafness or health issues thus far. Obviously I don't know his pedigree since he's from the shelter, but I don't mind - he's a great boy and he gets lots of admirers. If he has a boxer prone illness later in life, we'll take care of him. I mostly wanted to rescue a boxer rather than get one from a breeder.
My understanding is that other than deafness and sunburn the whites are basically the same healthwise as the others in their litter. You can tell if they are deaf pretty easily. We spray Casper with Bullfrog sunscreen when he's going to be out in the sun with us a lot.
Of course he can't be shown but we weren't planning on showing or breeding anyway. I may do some agility and obedience training and if he ever got good enough to compete, even a dog with no papers can participate in those areas.
If you are set on not fixing your male bulldog, I'd definately go with a female. But I would recommend having him fixed unless you were planning on confirming and breeding him. It is healthier and you don't have to worry about prostate cancer or "wunderlust" when a female nearby is in heat. When we were at the shelter looking for a boxer, they had 4 boxers, three unfixed male boxers and one female boxer.
I'd also work mostly on getting a boxer that seemed to get along well with your bulldog. My main concern with adopting Casper was that he would be the kind of dog Sumi would like - which she does. They have formed a real bond.
My husband liked the idea of a white, I like Fawns since "my" boxer as a kid was fawn. But when we saw Casper, we both knew he was the "right" dog for us, I wouldn't have cared what color he was when I saw his little happy face and wagging stump.
He's fine health wise, no deafness or health issues thus far. Obviously I don't know his pedigree since he's from the shelter, but I don't mind - he's a great boy and he gets lots of admirers. If he has a boxer prone illness later in life, we'll take care of him. I mostly wanted to rescue a boxer rather than get one from a breeder.
My understanding is that other than deafness and sunburn the whites are basically the same healthwise as the others in their litter. You can tell if they are deaf pretty easily. We spray Casper with Bullfrog sunscreen when he's going to be out in the sun with us a lot.
Of course he can't be shown but we weren't planning on showing or breeding anyway. I may do some agility and obedience training and if he ever got good enough to compete, even a dog with no papers can participate in those areas.
If you are set on not fixing your male bulldog, I'd definately go with a female. But I would recommend having him fixed unless you were planning on confirming and breeding him. It is healthier and you don't have to worry about prostate cancer or "wunderlust" when a female nearby is in heat. When we were at the shelter looking for a boxer, they had 4 boxers, three unfixed male boxers and one female boxer.
I'd also work mostly on getting a boxer that seemed to get along well with your bulldog. My main concern with adopting Casper was that he would be the kind of dog Sumi would like - which she does. They have formed a real bond.
My husband liked the idea of a white, I like Fawns since "my" boxer as a kid was fawn. But when we saw Casper, we both knew he was the "right" dog for us, I wouldn't have cared what color he was when I saw his little happy face and wagging stump.
Tucker's_mom
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Hi Mikki!!
I just read your post and see that you're from Plainfield, Indiana. I'm was born in Danville and raised in Avon (Go Orioles!!). I moved up to Michigan with my husband about 4 years ago, but do I miss the more relaxed pace of Indy (and the fact that it gets warmer sooner down there
).
Welcome to the board. We'll have to chat again!!
Andrea
Hi Mikki!!
I just read your post and see that you're from Plainfield, Indiana. I'm was born in Danville and raised in Avon (Go Orioles!!). I moved up to Michigan with my husband about 4 years ago, but do I miss the more relaxed pace of Indy (and the fact that it gets warmer sooner down there
).Welcome to the board. We'll have to chat again!!
Andrea
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Mikki and respondents
Before I go anywhere with this I will make my stand clear. I am a breeder of 13 years experience and I do NOT cull white puppies that may occur in my litters. Nor do I scorn those that do. Nor do I try to persuade one way or another as to whether people should or should not acquire a white boxer.
Having said that, in the interest of informed decisions, I would like to point out that health problems in white boxers are documented although interest in obtaining data is only now taking off.
As a moderator here it would be in poor form for me to repeat a post from another thread here but I will refer you to another thread on site regarding white boxers.
http://boxerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=7241
In one of my replies here I give numbers tallied from Boxer Rescue organisations on how many deaf white boxers have come to their shelters.
People who mentioned sunburn are correct but the problem goes further than that depending on what part of the world you are in. All boxers are very prone to cancer, white boxers have the added problem in this regard in that they are very prone to melanoma. I am from Australia and have seen white boxers with melanoma and once they have it, it's all downhill as it is a highly metastatic cancer.
When I place my white puppies in homes the new owner MUST sign a spay/neuter contract that includes a clause that whenever possible the pup comes back to me to have this procedure attended to. The contract also states the puppy MUST be a house dog due to our harsh sun and that special attention be given to skin care (weekly inspection for changes, sunscreen etc) when the puppy is to be out of doors. This should never be a problem as boxers, white and coloured are house dogs anyway.
I know many will write or have written telling how their white boxer is fine and I'm pleased for that, but please retain "the big picture" when thinking about white boxers. Bear the figures in mind that can be found at the other thread. If you can't be bothered sifting through the other thread, here's a direct link to the figures
http://www.cinemaboxers.com/whites.htm
Matthew
Before I go anywhere with this I will make my stand clear. I am a breeder of 13 years experience and I do NOT cull white puppies that may occur in my litters. Nor do I scorn those that do. Nor do I try to persuade one way or another as to whether people should or should not acquire a white boxer.
Having said that, in the interest of informed decisions, I would like to point out that health problems in white boxers are documented although interest in obtaining data is only now taking off.
As a moderator here it would be in poor form for me to repeat a post from another thread here but I will refer you to another thread on site regarding white boxers.
http://boxerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=7241
In one of my replies here I give numbers tallied from Boxer Rescue organisations on how many deaf white boxers have come to their shelters.
People who mentioned sunburn are correct but the problem goes further than that depending on what part of the world you are in. All boxers are very prone to cancer, white boxers have the added problem in this regard in that they are very prone to melanoma. I am from Australia and have seen white boxers with melanoma and once they have it, it's all downhill as it is a highly metastatic cancer.
When I place my white puppies in homes the new owner MUST sign a spay/neuter contract that includes a clause that whenever possible the pup comes back to me to have this procedure attended to. The contract also states the puppy MUST be a house dog due to our harsh sun and that special attention be given to skin care (weekly inspection for changes, sunscreen etc) when the puppy is to be out of doors. This should never be a problem as boxers, white and coloured are house dogs anyway.
I know many will write or have written telling how their white boxer is fine and I'm pleased for that, but please retain "the big picture" when thinking about white boxers. Bear the figures in mind that can be found at the other thread. If you can't be bothered sifting through the other thread, here's a direct link to the figures
http://www.cinemaboxers.com/whites.htm
Matthew
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