Advice on unplanned puppies

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ab9857

Boxer Pal
Hello everybody,

I'm a new member here and I have kind of a lengthy story and I'd love some advice. I am the owner of two boxers. The male, Harley, is about 1 1/2 years old and I adopted him from a boxer rescue organization when he was 12 weeks old. The female, Casey, is about 2 years old and I adopted her from a military family who was moving overseas when she was about 6 months old. They are both excellent companions and they mean the world to my family and I. Now on to my problem. When I adopted Casey, her family told me that she had been spayed, and I believed them because she does have a small scar on her belly and I had no reason to doubt them. But either they were confused or the operation was unsuccessful because Casey, as it turns out, is not spayed. Ironically, we were planning to have Harley neutered pretty soon, but I had wanted to make sure that he was finished growing before he had the operation. I now know after much reading that neutering doesn't stunt their growth, but you know what they say about hindsight. Anyway, nature took its course and now after many visits to the vet we have a litter of 8 healthy puppies. I do want to make it clear that I am an opponent of backyard breeding, or breeding your pets unless you know very well what you are doing, which I do not. And I know the countless tests that should be performed on both parents before you even begin to think about breeding them. And my dogs have not had all those tests. I do know about the staggering pet population in this country. And with knowing all that my family and I were not willing to accept the alternative to having the puppies. So with all that said, the advice I'm looking for relates to finding good homes for these puppies. Three puppies already have excellent homes and families to look forward to, but that leaves 5. I'm hoping to get advice from someone who has experience breeding on the best questions to ask potential owners (besides the most obvious), and who to flat out turn down. As well as how I should represent these dogs. Both parents are purebred and AKC registered, but seeing as how I am not a reputable breeder I don't know that I should represent the puppies as such. We plan to donate any money made to a local animal shelter but I don't know what a reasonable price to ask for these puppies might be. And finally, I am told that there is some kind of agreement that can be signed by owners promising that these dogs will be spayed or neutered when they are of appropriate age, I would like to know where to find something like that. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. It may go without saying but Harley had his operation early during the pregnancy. Thanks again in advance
 
Despite the unplanned litter, I commend you for wanting to do right by these pups and taking all the necessary steps to make sure they go to good homes and avoiding any future litters!!! As you say, hindsight is 20/20... accidents happen. I can't offer any advice, but would suggest looking at some of the other boards like "rearing puppies" or "choosing a breeder" for some suggestions on how to find good homes. Also, I think your plan to have a spay/neuter contract is a good one!!! Please stick to it!!!
 

Vela

Boxer Insane
You really cannot be faulted for not knowing your female was not spayed since that is what you were told when you got her and by all appaearacne this was so. I don't know if I could have ended the pregnancy either once it came about in that way. I think you are doing a gret thing by havnig the spay and neuter contract. Goodluck in finding them homes. If you do a search there was another thread on this recently and there are questions in the pupy section that can help you. Good luck on findngs them homes!
 

harley03

Completely Boxer Crazy
I believe THIS is the link Vela referred to.
Some of the questions may or may not apply to your situation.

what you should be asking them - well, everyone has their own ideas, of course, and you should sit down before you even breed the litter and decide what you will and will not accept for your puppies, and where you will and will not be flexible. Some things to think about:

Previous experience with dogs in general/Boxers in particular
History with pets - have they given one away, if so why, have they euthanized a pet, if so why (you're not necessarily looking for "no" here - what you want to find out is if they do as much as they can, but in the end opt for what is in the best interests of the dog; sometimes rehoming or euthanization is the best thing)
Do they have children (many Boxer breeders are hesitant to place a puppy in a home with young children, say under 5 years of age - you need to decide your own comfort level on that)
Where will the puppy/adult dog stay - when the family is home, when no one is home during the day or an evening, when they go on vacation, etc.
Other pets they currently have
Yard situation - some won't place a dog in an unfenced yard, generally as the result of a bad experience in the past (you might also consider asking about a pool, and if it is individually fenced - there are many stories of dogs falling into pools and drowning)
Do they know about Boxers and understand the breed (i.e., they do shed, they are very energetic, they require training, they don't calm down until they're 10, etc.)
Do they have a color/gender preference and will they accept something else if the personality is better for their situation
What are their plans for the puppy (conformation, obedience, agility, travelling companion, couch potato, exercise buddy, etc.) - this will affect which temperament suits them
Will they agree to any requirements you have - diet, vaccination schedule, spay/neuter, first right of refusal, etc.

I suggest visiting breeder websites (of many different breeds) and reading their puppy questionnaires - pick and choose until you have a list that works for you.
 

Zannie

Completely Boxer Crazy
a friend had a litter of great dane pups unplanned and she had them sighn a spay neuter contract and had them put a 2oo hundered dollar fee and gave them back money when she got proof of the spay-neuter and she realy interveiwed them also they went to home owners only and fenced in yards

about your female did'nt you notice her in heat if she was 6 months when you got her and now she is about 2 years.................

good luck...ann
 

adeinert

Boxer Insane
Why don't you just let a local boxer rescue adopt them out? They are skilled at screening homes, will have them all spayed or neutered and you won't have to worry about charging money for they receive fees to go towards vetting.
Our boxer rescue has had pups turned in or adopted out through us when the owners didn't want a profit but just wanted to find good homes.

Ashlie
 

katie71003

Boxer Booster
Hey its really not your fault about the unplanned litter. Im not sure if I am able to put this on here or not, but my twin sister is looking fora boxer puppy, as she lost her boxer about a month ago. We live in Louisiana, and if you would like to contact me email at <<please do not post personal information; people wishing to contact privately can use the PM feature>>

I would sell either with spay/neuter contract, and its been my experience that these pups are usually sold for a minimal fee....My neighbors had an unplanned litter and I helped her to give them away to good homes.
Katie
 
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SammynDqtz

Boxer Insane
I think Adeinert has a good idea. If there is not a boxer rescue in your area than having them pay a couple hundred and giving it back after proof of the spay or neuter was done is also a good idea. Just don't give them away for free or for a very very small amount... I heard of bad things that happen to "Free Puppies". Sometimes people will get free pups and turn around and sell them to testing labs and the like.
Good luck!
 

SammynDqtz

Boxer Insane
Zannie about your female did'nt you notice her in heat if she was 6 months when you got her and now she is about 2 years................. [/QUOTE said:
I was just wondering the same thing... it's normally VERY easy to tell when a female dog is in heat... it's quite messy! Maybe hers was abnormally light or something???
 

ab9857

Boxer Pal
Hey everybody,

Thanks for the replies. My vet asked me the same thing about Casey, and I guess all I can say is that she is the first female animal I've ever owned, and the only sign I guess I ever noticed was a few drops of blood that I didn't really know were out of the ordinary for a spayed dog. And the possibility of having puppies just isn't something that ever crossed my mind, if that makes sense. I tried to check with the organization that I adopted Harley from to possibly get some advice or help in locating homes for the puppies and they have since closed their doors. The woman who ran it was elderly and I guess she probably decided to retire. Harley was only 12 weeks old when I adopted him, so I guess maybe he was too young to be neutered. Anyway, I have spent quite a few hours on the phone calling friends, and friends of friends, and I have found homes for 3 more of the puppies, all of whom already own boxers. I met their dogs over the weekend and they looked great so I'm happy about that. That leaves me about 8 weeks to find two more homes. So I'm confident that everything will turn out okay. Again thanks for the replies and I'll try and post pictures of all TEN of my dogs soon.
 
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