Absolutely Horrified! (long vent, sorry)

[Nemeia]

so, do you think you've "trained" your dog with a pinch collar or has the COLLAR trained your dog. He only behaves when he has this horrid collar on so to me, the collar did the "training" (or restricting and adverse repurcussions) and you have done nothing but take the easy way out. I have trained thousands of dogs and have NEVER had to use a chain collar, pinch collar or elecontronic device to achieve what is needed from ANY dog, even the most aggressive (which is of course the worst thing you can do - meet aggression with agression -- as it only exacerbates the problem and doesn't resolve it or train the dog what TO DO.

Dan

Maybe you're right, maybe the collar trained him... Either way, he's not pulling when he's on it. I do not have enough experience to train a dog without help... Like you said, you have trained thousands of dog's... and I haven't trained even one. No, Max is not being trained, he's being spoiled...

Besides, when I did my reading on the collars here on this site, they didn't mention that they could be harmful or dangerous in any way... He is what BoxerWorld sayd about pinch collars... and that's what I guided myself with"

"These are used for the same purposes as the choke collar, to "correct" the dog by yanking on its neck if it does not comply. The prong collar is actually far safer than the choker - the study in Germany mentioned above also evaluated prong collars, and found no neck/back/trachea injuries as a result of correct use of this collar. Prong collars are commonly used with dogs who pull while on lead - it is worth noting that the individual prongs do wear and stretch, and it is not uncommon for the collar to spring open while on the dog. For this reason, a back-up collar should also be worn and hooked to the leash (or a second leash). Like a choker, this collar is a training tool and should be used with proper instruction - and again should never be used on puppies." - Max was over 1 when I started using it on him.