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White boxers - what's wrong?

Discussion in 'Showing - questions and answers' started by sarah_bailey, Feb 3, 2007.

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  1. sarah_bailey

    sarah_bailey Super Boxer

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    Thanks for all of your comments.

    I completely understand why whites should not be shown, it isn't a beauty contest. I didn't realise the true meaning of showing (for breding stock) when I posted the thread so am glad that so many people have been invloved and have been able to see this information.

    I would like to show Bailey for 'fun' and now I know the way to do this - Agility etc. It's fun for Bailey and me then!

    Thanks
     
  2. sjdl

    sjdl Boxer Buddy

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    As a answer to the last post: Yes I do have documentation on the genetic tests that were done on my dogs; but unless you plan on being able to raise the dead I will never be able to breed my Fawn female ever again-as I mention she was murdered by someone that was possesed and determined to buy one of my pups. I provided copies of all this information to my buyers and unless you are one of my buyers I don't have to prove anything to you.

    My only breeding dog left is a Brindle stud (CKC) that competes in weight pulls and tracking. And His parents were AKC which we then had dual regestered so he could compete in a less hostile world where we do it for the fun not the money.

    If you want to know more about what happened to my female and her litter read my post under looking to adopt in NC.
     
  3. sminoleboxer

    sminoleboxer Super Boxer

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    How did they come to be murdered? Did you leave them outside where someone had access to them? If so then it's you who were not responsible.
     
  4. Boxerowner2

    Boxerowner2 Boxer Buddy

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    Thank you I will read, most you have posted already look familiar.


    "Do you happen to know what the effect of lack of pigment on internal organs is?"

    Yes i sure do but this shouldn't be even brought into this conversation because this is only in ALBINO animals not whites. White boxers are not albinos!

    You can continue to insult my knowledge but I have my own brain and choose not to be someones robot and repeat and drill into others heads what simply has never been proven.
     
  5. GoCougs

    GoCougs Go Daddy Moderator<br><img src="/forums/images/mod

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    Good, then you'll be happy to pass those along to contact@boxerworld.com. Otherwise, by the site rules, you may not talk about your breeding program on Boxerworld. You missed the point entirely.

    To discuss it on this site, you most certainly do!

    Since it was lost on you the first time, consider this your last warning.
     
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  6. gmacleod

    gmacleod Elusive Moderator Staff Member

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    Good - then I suggest you get in touch with the scientists listed above. They don't know the effects, so I'm sure they'll be delighted to be educated by you.

    As for albinos - only one harping on about that is you ;) Nobody else has suggested for a moment that albinoism is remotely in the equation or, in fact, has any relevance to the topic at all. Not sure why it's such a fixation for you. Or you think lack of pigment must mean zero? Or that it's only zero pigment that results in deafness? LOL - I don't think you take in a lot of what you read if that's the case (you've already been told - again, in this very thread - that nobody but you is discussing albinos). And it is certainly not albinos that are the subject of all the links posted above - the ones that are so "familiar" to you.
     
  7. sjdl

    sjdl Boxer Buddy

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    No I did not leave them outside. My backroom (which is air conditioned and heated just for my dogs) is 16x12 of my home was broke into. I live in the country, we only have 3 neighbors within 10 miles. I reported the break in at first as just that a break in, because nothing was missing we thought it was just someone looking for something to steal. The babies and their mama were in a ajoining room that seemed to have not been bothered. When she started throwing up is when we rushed her to the vet and they told us that she had been poisened. She was such a sweetheart that she trusted the person who poisened her. The police had fingerprinted the scene and run the prints that traced back to the person that had the count of cruilty. I hope this answers all of your questions about the MURDER and pray that this never happens to any of you.
     
  8. beausmommy

    beausmommy Boxer Insane

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    Wow! I had no idea white boxers could be such a touchy subject. I'm glad no one here is in support of eliminating white boxers because I want my next boxer (and the next...and the next) to be white. I had never been around any boxers before I got Beau and I wanted a fawn. However, as many of you know he was offered to me free of charge and the second I saw that smooshy face in the window of the breeder's house I knew he had to be mine. I don't have plans to ever breed or show any of my pets because that's just not my thing. So...I had no problem when Beau's breeder asked me to neuter him (Bailey is neutered and any boxer I got was going to be neutered as well). I think Beau's being white draws people in because he has a unique appearance. It disgusts me to think that many people would love to exploit him and make more "rare" white boxers. I've had people tell me it's a shame that he's neutered because he would have made some beautiful puppies. I'm sure he would have...but at what risk? I've tried explaining responsible breeding to people but all I get is a blank stare. I wish people would do more research before they use their pets to make a quick buck. I think Beau is the most beautiful boxer in the world (yes, I'm a bit partial). I think most boxer parents would say the same about their own. I couldn't care less that Beau doesn't fit the breed standard because I'm not going to breed him so it is completely irrelevant. He's my siller boxer baby and nothing any judge could say about him would make me love him any less.
     
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    I do not know of ONE show/breeder that is in favor of bringing the white boxer back into the ring or breeding pool. I am not sure who you have been talking to, but I doubt if it is anyone who really cares for the future of the boxer.

    As for overall health and longevity, the white boxer has the very same health problems as the fawn or brindle. Cancer, heart problems, allergies and anything else that affects a fawn or brindle can also be found in a white boxer.
     
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    kassa Boxer Insane

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    Due to lack of pigment, one in five white boxers is bilaterally deaf. ​

    I'm sure there's a typo there because it's simply not true. I've known dozens of white boxers in my life personally, and only two deaf ones. Polling on the Show Boxer List over the years has consistently put the rate of bilaterally deaf whites at well below 10%, and probably below 5%.

    Unilaterally deaf dogs, of course we don't know, but 20% of white boxers simply are not deaf -- not even in the rescue population.
     
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