shredding magazines and pooping in the house..

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fmpirtle

Boxer Booster
I really hope someone can help me out..Im at a loss :( Molly is a over a year old and still isnt completely potty trained. We have tried everything imaginable and once we think she "has" it, she starts using it in the house again ( usually when we are gone even if its just an hour) Now, we come home to magazines being shredded and Im not sure what to do. What is the proper discipline? Where are we going wrong?


By the way, could me going back to work have any effect on her at all? I have been home with her everyday for a month and 2 days ago I went back to work full time. HELP!!


Thanks so much!
 

gmacleod

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Is she just peeing/pooping once and usually in the same place, or are you coming home to multiple puddles and piles in random places? Your post makes me wonder a little bit about separation anxiety...

On a different note, how many hours of hard exercise does she get each day? At this age, boxers needs are pretty high and if their needs aren't well met, adolescents behaviour does tend toward the destructive.
 

fmpirtle

Boxer Booster
It is always in the same place/room. She does go outside a lot during the day to play in the backyard but, she could go out more I suppose.

What is the best way to discipline when they tear things up?
 

gmacleod

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Tear things up right in front of you? Or when you're not home?

If it's the former, then the best thing to do (aside from putting things out of reach in the first place) is to let the dog know it's not an appreciated activity with a loud "Uh uh" followed immediately by an instruction to "leave it". Assuming, of course, that the dog has been taught the leave it command. When the dog leaves it, they must be promptly rewarded for complying, then redirected to a more suitable activity. After which, you curse yourself for not putting things out of reach, and put them out of reach ;)

If it's when you're not home or don't see it happen, there is no possible way to effectively discipline the dog. That is, any discipline will serve no purpose other than to make you feel better. The dog, conversely, will be in total ignorance of why you're mad. They think in terms of cause/effect - and just as it is only ever effective to praise at the moment the dog is doing something you want, it's equally only effective to scold at the moment the dog is doing something you don't want. If you doubt it - imagine how far you'd get trying to teach 'sit' if you didn't praise at the relevant time, but came along 10 minutes later saying "hey, remember that sit you did 10 minutes, 30 minutes, an hour ago? Well, it was really good. Here, have a cookie". LOL - without doubt the dog would happily have the cookie. But there's no way in the world they could realise it was a reward for the sit, nor could it help to teach. Well, it's no different with punishment, signs of displeasure, redirection or whatever. Those *must* take place at the time the dog is doing whatever they're doing wrong. If you miss it, too bad. There's nothing that can be done except (a) to stop giving the dog the opportunity to do the 'bad' thing in your absence, and perhaps (b) trying to set them up to do it whilst you're there so that you can implement the above training.

As for the exercise thing - going out in the yard is not enough. Not unless you're out there too, anyway, engaging with her and giving her some good hard exercise. A boxer of any age needs to run for at least an hour daily, and adolescents for 2-3 times that much. If you don't give enough exercise (mental, as well as physical) then you end with a bored and frustrated dog that behaves badly. Really, it is amazing the difference proper exercise and mental stimulation can make.
 

RolenKisses

Boxer Insane
Rolen has torn up magazines, newspapers, and mail a couple of times while we've been gone. I have just made sure the kitchen table is clear of those items before we leave. At times, he is gated to the kitchen while we are gone, but other times he stays in his crate when we are going to be gone and we know that he hasn't been worn out enough to be left in the kitchen. Exercise is key! Rolen will get a morning walk and a good game of fetch before we leave in the morning. Hope this helps a bit! :)
 

fmpirtle

Boxer Booster
Molly does the shredding and pooping inside while we are gone. I feel so dumb because I have read over and over on here to take everything out of reach but, she has never even payed attention to the magazines so I didnt think it would be a problem...lesson learned :)

When she goes outside to play I am out there with her but, I do think she should go on more walks since that seems to tire her out. Thanks so much for the advice!
 

RolenKisses

Boxer Insane
I feel so dumb because I have read over and over on here to take everything out of reach but, she has never even payed attention to the magazines so I didnt think it would be a problem...lesson learned :)

Don't feel dumb! That's how I learned too :) Rolen never messed with the magazines and mail on the kitchen table while we were there, but he sure found them fun while we were gone! :LOL:
 
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