michela ott
Boxer Pal
Hi all! can you please tell me where can I find information about "palatoschisis" (I wonder if the word is correct...)?
Thank you
Michela
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Michela
palatoschisis
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Krikkit
Boxer Insane
Hi Michela, a search on 'palatoschisis' brings up quite a few websites but I've not really been able to follow them. Many were in German and Dutch. Perhaps you could do a web search on this? I'm sorry I'm not much help :(
If you find anything definate please let us know as now I'm curious as to what it is - have found things on cows and rabbits, vitamin deficiency, teeth, cleft palets, weaning, pathology....all on the one search.
An online dictionary says that palato is an prefix: A combining form used in anatomy to indicate relation to, or connection with, the palate; as in palatolingual.
If you find anything definate please let us know as now I'm curious as to what it is - have found things on cows and rabbits, vitamin deficiency, teeth, cleft palets, weaning, pathology....all on the one search.
An online dictionary says that palato is an prefix: A combining form used in anatomy to indicate relation to, or connection with, the palate; as in palatolingual.
michela ott
Boxer Pal
HI! thak you for replying so soon!! What I know about palatoschisis is that it is, unfortunately, a genetic disease very common here in Italy. Some puppies' palate result to be divided (cutted) as soon as they are born and they need to be neutered immediately since they cannot survive. I wonder if this disease can be predicted and if it is so common also in other countries.
I tried a web search but I had no sensible results for boxers.
I have another question. May I or should I post another topic? I read the articles http://frontpage.lightspeed.net/bixl/color.htm about colour coat and white markings in boxers but I hear from some breeders that it happens that some dogs with large white markings never produce white puppies (look for instance to the beautiful doghttp://rusch.freeservers.com/index3.htm which is champion of the year 2000: they say and write down it doesn't produce white puppies!); can that be considered true or false?
Thank you
MICHELA
I tried a web search but I had no sensible results for boxers.
I have another question. May I or should I post another topic? I read the articles http://frontpage.lightspeed.net/bixl/color.htm about colour coat and white markings in boxers but I hear from some breeders that it happens that some dogs with large white markings never produce white puppies (look for instance to the beautiful doghttp://rusch.freeservers.com/index3.htm which is champion of the year 2000: they say and write down it doesn't produce white puppies!); can that be considered true or false?
Thank you
MICHELA
Krikkit
Boxer Insane
Perhaps palatoschisis is a cleft palet? Hopefully someone else will be able to tell us. I just found this here on Boxer puppies: http://www.inno-vet.com/articles/1999/1199/51.htm
I'm not sure how commmon it is Michela - sorry - the figure on that site seems that it is lowish (Netherland study).
About Boxer markings it is hard to tell. The trouble with genetics is that you can not see the genes. I really like the articles on colours at http://frontpage.lightspeed.net/bixl/color.htm as it is a good explanation in laymans terms (which I need LOL). I don't think there is a true or false as so many factors come into it - including the Dam. That is a beautiful Boxer in the link you posted
I'm not sure how commmon it is Michela - sorry - the figure on that site seems that it is lowish (Netherland study).
About Boxer markings it is hard to tell. The trouble with genetics is that you can not see the genes. I really like the articles on colours at http://frontpage.lightspeed.net/bixl/color.htm as it is a good explanation in laymans terms (which I need LOL). I don't think there is a true or false as so many factors come into it - including the Dam. That is a beautiful Boxer in the link you posted
michela ott
Boxer Pal
HI! Thank you!!
Cleft palate and palatoschisis seem to be synonymous; I looked at the dictionary in http://www.drburkland.com/dictionary.html where I found the following definition:
cleft palate=A groove or division in the roof of the mouth, caused by the incomplete fusion of the palate during embryonic development. It may extend throughout the entire palate. Also known as palatoschisis.
I also found the following information: http://www.petinfocenter.com/cats_dogs/cleftpalate.htm
It seems to be a genetic disorder connected with a A VITAMIN deficiency http://numbat.murdoch.edu.au/nutrition/vitA/disvitA.html
BUT....
I’m very confused because the following article: http://www.vetinfo.com/dpalate.html#Cleft%20Palate-%20Toxins%20that%20cause
seems to state the opposite.
I hope to hear from you soon!
Cleft palate and palatoschisis seem to be synonymous; I looked at the dictionary in http://www.drburkland.com/dictionary.html where I found the following definition:
cleft palate=A groove or division in the roof of the mouth, caused by the incomplete fusion of the palate during embryonic development. It may extend throughout the entire palate. Also known as palatoschisis.
I also found the following information: http://www.petinfocenter.com/cats_dogs/cleftpalate.htm
It seems to be a genetic disorder connected with a A VITAMIN deficiency http://numbat.murdoch.edu.au/nutrition/vitA/disvitA.html
BUT....
I’m very confused because the following article: http://www.vetinfo.com/dpalate.html#Cleft%20Palate-%20Toxins%20that%20cause
seems to state the opposite.
I hope to hear from you soon!
C
Copper Hill Boxers
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Hi Michella, the most common thought is that cleft palettes are a hereditary condition. Although when breeding two dogs from "clear" lines...that have never had cleft palettes, outside toxins need to be considered, I think that in most cases it is indeed hereditary.
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Lava Linda
Completely Boxer Crazy
My friend Toni had a litter of Corgis in October, her bitch's second litter. She did all the necessary health testing and the sire was from a well known breeder, but she lost 4 of 6 pups in the first two weeks. It turned out they had soft palates that were too long, so milk was being aspirated into their lungs when they nursed from the mom. I had never heard of such a thing!
What a heartbreak. She did everything to save them, spent a fortune and brought some to work so she could carefully bottle feed every two hours. We were all stroking their bellies and cheering when they pooped, so we were very sad as well.
The remaining two pups will only be sold to buyers who agree to neuter. Toni would keep them, but she already has 5 Corgis and one mutt!! (All of them are treated as members of the family and she only breeds the one female.)
Anyway, I thought palatoschisis might describe this condition, but it doesn't sound like. They weren't cleft, just too long.
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Linda, proud mother of:
Gilroy - 5 y.o. brindle male, natural ears, gentle as a lamb
Purdy - 5 y.o. spayed flashy brindle, natural ears and tongue
Michaela, Boss and Tonka, waiting at the bridge
What a heartbreak. She did everything to save them, spent a fortune and brought some to work so she could carefully bottle feed every two hours. We were all stroking their bellies and cheering when they pooped, so we were very sad as well.
The remaining two pups will only be sold to buyers who agree to neuter. Toni would keep them, but she already has 5 Corgis and one mutt!! (All of them are treated as members of the family and she only breeds the one female.)
Anyway, I thought palatoschisis might describe this condition, but it doesn't sound like. They weren't cleft, just too long.
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Linda, proud mother of:
Gilroy - 5 y.o. brindle male, natural ears, gentle as a lamb
Purdy - 5 y.o. spayed flashy brindle, natural ears and tongue
Michaela, Boss and Tonka, waiting at the bridge
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