Yes you're right Gmacleod, their opinions ARE valid, because everyone is entitled to one. I didn't mean to come across as being narrow-minded or anything, but I feel strongly about this (and I know there are many others who feel the same way) so I got a bit carried away :o Anyway, to re-phrase my last statement about banning (so I am not going out of topic), I really hope that an undocked tail will never be included as part of the Boxer standard and allowed in the show ring without penalty. Btw, I really do agree with the issue brought up that individuals should be able to choose. However, looks like so far the majority's choice is for docked tails only. Well, majority rules I do apologise for going out of topic with the banning issue.