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Kennel Name

Discussion in 'Showing - questions and answers' started by Darbysmom1, Sep 4, 2006.

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  1. Darbysmom1

    Darbysmom1 Super Boxer

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    I have been trying and trying to come up with a really good Kennel name and am really scared of picking a name someone already has. Now at the last club meeting I was at some of the people were talking about how no one should be able to claim they didnt know someone else was using the Kennel name with all the internet out there. I have studied enough to know that the few possible names I am thinking are not any major boxer breeder out there but does anyone know besides just doing a web search is there a way to see if someone has the kennel name or not? I have searched and searched and not been able to find the kennel name in use but am really worried about stepping on peoples toes. The one thing I have learned in the show world is that enemies are made a lot quicker then friends. Now I know you can apply for the kennel name through the akc but I was talking to my mentor and he is a well known breeder everyone knows their kennel name and I was asking him about it and he said that most people pick there name way before having it approved by the akc since you have to have so many litter ect.. Like our club gives you plaques with your kennel name that you hang each of your champions names on as they finish. My mentor advised me just pick a name but I really dont want a name already in use. Any advice? Sorry this is so long...
     
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    To register a kennel name with the AKC, it has to be a word not in the dictionary. So that makes it easy from that perspective. If you want to register your kennel, make up a word. :)

    As far as using the alternative, I found it easy to use something unique to my area. Something that other parts of the country may not have. Once you come up with something like that, then you only need to look locally if you are stepping on toes. Ask local breeders. :) The first kennel name we came up with didn't return anything on the web, because they never produced any litters, but we learned was already being used by someone.
     
  3. JulieM

    JulieM Boxer Insane

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    The AKC has considerably loosened their rules on registered kennel names; dictionary and place words are now allowed, for the most part, and they're breed-specific instead of all-breeds (i.e., there could be a Mykennel Boxers, and a Mykennel Bouviers, and a Mykennel Pharoah Hounds, all AKC-registered kennel names). Of course, AKC kennel registration is not required and not altogether that common, though there was a surge when the rules changed and they dropped the fee from $500 to $25 (it's back up to I think $100 now).

    At any rate - a couple of good places to see if a kennel name has been used are the AKC store (www.akc.org/store) - in the "AKC Reports" section, under "Points and Awards", you can search for a dog by breed and kennel prefix. (This will not find dogs with the kennel name anywhere except at the front of their registered name.) If you search for "Mykennel" under Boxers, three things can happen: 1, you get an Error message "we could not find your dog" - which means there are no Boxers whose registered names begin with "Mykennel"; 2, you get a list of dogs, which means someone at some point was using the name (though it may have been many years ago - clicking on the individual dog will give you the DOB); 3, you get an Error message "the search criteria returned over 40 dogs), which also means someone at some point was using the name quite a bit. You only get 10 searches a day, though - which includes each individual dog - so if you get a list of dogs, check the registration numbers before clicking on the individual dogs: older registration numbers have fewer digits - currently, the pattern is two letters (WS or maybe WT by now; in 1998 it was WP) and then 8 numbers, but they didn't add the last two digits until sometime after 1988 - before then it was W* and 6 numbers; currently littermates have the same number except the last two digits, so you only need DOB on one of them (before they added the last two digits, each dog had a unique number). (Sorry, that probably confused things even more!)

    Another good place to look is at www.worldpedigrees.com - this is not a complete database by any means, and doesn't include much of the non-show population, but it will pick up the kennel name anywhere in the registered name, so not only will you find "Mykennel's Sofia", you'll also find "Insouciance of Mykennel".
     
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    Wow. That's interesting. When did that change? Their website still doesn't reflect that change.

    http://www.akc.org/reg/kennelnames.cfm

    The sixth bulleted item reads:

    "The kennel name must be unique and unable to be found in any domestic or foreign dictionary. "
     
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    I verified the change with the AKC in late December 2004. What they told me was, "Yes, the rules have changed. Obviously if you dig far enough, many words are cities or towns somewhere. We would not approve obvious, common names of cities or states. If the word has not been used in the breed being applied for, the name may be granted however we reserve the right to approve or disapprove any application."
     
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    Your best bet is simply to make up a word, or chose a combination of two words that is very obscure (as opposed to Mountain Top, or Swift Water, or whatever)

    In addition to the suggestions above, read the breed magazines, join the mailing lists, and keep your eyes open. Also check historical sources (especially old boxer books). I was all ready to go with a family joke version of my family name and it turned out to be one of the very first foundation kennels. Oops -- that could have been potentially embarrassing and presumptuous of me!
     
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