Is this normal? (lymph nodes)

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jobermei

Boxer Pal
One month ago I took Maxine (who is a 2 1/2 year old boxer/american bulldog mix) into the vet because she had a 3 cm lump (sort of squishy, movable, detached) under her chin where it connects to her neck on the left side of her throat. I freaked out because the doctor was saying possibly lymphoma. She did a needle aspiration and it came back inconclusive for infection or cancer (said there were slightly varying sizes of lymphocytes, which was somewhat concerning, but there were also neutrophils, which as I take it, is a sign of infection). So she put her on 2 weeks antibiotics to see if that would help. Well after her 2 weeks of pills, it was a LOT smaller, but still there, so she put her on another 2 weeks of antibiotics. Now that brings me to today. It's hard to see, and hard to even find, but it's still there, even squishier than it was before and tiny.

When I finally stopped freaking out it that it was cancer because it shrank due to the antibiotics, I noticed something else. I have everyday been checking her other lymph nodes to see if they are swollen since that is a sign of lymphoma. And now I'm starting to freak out because I noticed two pretty small bumps on both opposite sides of her neck behind her jawline. They are exactly the same size. I don't know if because I'm so worried that I'm taking this as something it isn't, and being overly-paranoid, but I don't remember if they had always been like that, or not.

I feel them when I go all the way to the end of her jaw, below her ear, and drop down about an inch or so. Sort of right behind the corner of where her jaw hinges. They are firm, but not hard, don't cause her pain, etc. As a note she hasn't been acting any different from the start of this, still playing, not losing weight (she has even gained weight), being exactly the same.

Are these her lymph nodes? Because the lump she had initially under chin and on her neck the doctor said was her lymph node. Or could these be jaw muscles or something that I have just never paid attention to? Are you supposed to be able to feel normal lymph nodes at all, or does this mean they are swollen? Like I said, it's been a month since her first lump popped up (and these are not anywhere near as large as the first one was), if she had lymphoma shouldn't she be having some sort of other noticeable symptoms with her attitude by now? As you can tell, my stress level is through the roof, thinking that she has cancer.
Thanks for reading, any input it greatly appreciated.
 

darwinsmom

Super Boxer
Couple things. First, it could be salivary glands you are feeling now. Second, there are multiple locations on the body where lymph nodes can be palpitated but the easiest to locate are the submandibular ones, which are under the jaw towards the throat. Even if they are not enlarged you may be able to feel them. Pea or small bean size is normal, marble-sized is enlarged. Infections and allergies can cause enlargement as well as the dreaded lymphoma. At her age lymphoma is possible but not as common.

Karlyn
 

jobermei

Boxer Pal
Are you normally able to feel salivary glands? Are they usually larger than lymph nodes? I guess I'm relaxing a bit and thinking maybe that's what they are since the bumps are on the same exact spots on both sides, and the same exact size. I really just hope they aren't her lymph nodes.
 

Cami

Boxer Insane
You should be able to feel lymph nodes (if you know where to look and what they feel like). They are almost muscle-like in texture (firm-ish). You would use your pointer finger and thumb to slide down (or up) the lymph node. If there were swelling in them or a lump perhaps you would feel it.
It is safe to assume that your vet checked all the other lymph nodes while you were there. If something were amiss ALL OVER they more than likely would have spotted it.
Since you had good results with the antibiotics I would personally take the wait and see approach (minus any new symptoms or if the lump comes back).
If it is an infection the body is often times able to heal itself albeit slower than when meds are introduced but for a potential infection that isn't causing additional issues I would TRY to relax (somewhat). Don't let your guard down of course OR make another appointment for a once over just to put your mind at ease. Sometimes the expense is worth it if it helps you sleep at night!
 

whiskers

Boxer Insane
The salivary glands are in about the same area as the mandibular lymph nodes. Yes, you should be able to palpate both of these in a healthy dog. Lymph nodes are squishier and more freely moving--they tend to slide through your fingers as you're trying to get a feel for them. Generally they're about a few millimeters in length and width--not very large but you should still feel them.

I can't tell you if you're feeling lymph nodes or salivary glands, but feeling either would be normal... doesn't necessarily mean anything is enlarged.... hope that eases your mind a bit. :)
 

jobermei

Boxer Pal
I guess the only reason I'm concerned is because if I'm really looking for them, I can sort of see the outline of the shape. I'm kinda thinking (and hoping) that I'm just feeling the salivary glands, because it is much more muscular in texture and firmer, and doesn't feel like a lymph node. But I know if it IS the lymph node I'm feeling, that they have to be enlarged. I'm not sure of the size of a salivary gland typically.

Here's a picture to help what I'm seeing. The black arrow is to the little bump that is on both sides of her neck (I feel like I can see it just by looking at the picture) The red arrow is where she previously had an enlarged lymph node, beneath that loose skin.

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