doberman vs boxer

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goober

Boxer Pal
thanks for all the great replies. we are not far from the palo duro canyon. it is a georgous place to see.
i am keeping the overheating in mind as i do my research. i am researching several breeds before i make my decision. it will be some time before i get another dog. the breeds are : great dane (wonderful, but soooo big! ) boxers, weimaraners (more high energy than i think i can keep up with) and the dobermans of course. all the boards i have been on have great info, and of course all consider their breed to be the best and only....

i am a slow hiker, with limitations, and need a steady companion. the replies here have been great, and i look forward to more.
 

WeasleRocky

Completely Boxer Crazy
I definately think a weimaraner can be trained to go at your pace... might be your best bet of the dogs you listed... the great dane I'm not so sure would be light on their feet to go hiking... but that's just my opinion... ;) best of luck to you in your hunt for the campanion hiker...
 

lh4x

Boxer Buddy
I am an avid hiker and have found that my boxer doesn't keep up as well as other breeds. Now, he is a fairly lazy boxer anyway, and it may just depend on the boxer, but hiking is definitely not his forte. I also have a Cane Corso and she is a wonderful hiking partner. They are not a very well known breed, but they have many of the same characeteristics of Boxers. They tend to be more protective though. She is very people and dog friendly but has good instincts about when to be protective. You might want to look into them. They are a little bigger than most boxers, but definitely smaller than a Dane ;) I can get you more info if you are interested. Just let me know :)
 

Alex C.

Super Boxer
If you still want a Dobe, I'd recommend contacting a breeder who breeds 'working line Dobes'. They really emphasize on dogs with solid nerves and may have the right pup for you.
 

lirpa23

Boxer Booster
Alex has made a good point about finding the right doberman from the right breeder. You said your dobe is high strung, but didn't give specifics of his behavior, and didn't mention the age, training education, or where you received your dobe from. These are important factors with any breed when searching for a companion. Training is crucial with any dog when going on outings in public and expecting it to walk on a leash without becoming overexcited or distracted.

I love dobes, and before we got Rocco last year, I thought that was the only breed I would ever own. I have owned 3 previously, although now I just have my boxer. My last dobie, Shadow, was wonderful, and very well behaved. We could take him anywhere on and off leash, and he was very athletic. We took him on several local trails. Dobermans are wonderful exercise companions, but they are a dominant personality dog that must have proper training and attention. I'm not saying that yours doesn't have these basic needs, but I don't know how knowledgable you are about dobies. I also don't know if your doberman has come from a good breeder and if it even exhibits the common personality traits of this breed. Of all three dobes I've owned, none have been what I would deem as high strung. Of course, every dog has a unique personality and the bloodline plays a factor, as well. Any pup should come from a reputable breeder that uses strict criteria before breeding, including various certified health test by qualified veterinarians.

I agree with the other posters that boxers can overheat easily. It doesn't even have to be that hot. I had an incident with Rocco this past summer. He was only in our back yard 15-20 minutes and it was not that hot, but the humidity was high, as usual. I live in Alabama. He ran into the house and collapsed. You might think that the dog will know when to stop, or that there would be warning signs, but it comes on quickly and without warning, and surprises the dog more than anyone.


If you're planning on being in high heat, and walking for long distances, than the boxer may not be for you. I've heard many stories of boxers having heat strokes. Also, you didn't mention your lifestyle aside from the hiking, and there certainly are other considerations when choosing a breed.

Boxers are great, but not for everyone. Good luck with your search.
 

boofa

Boxer Pal
Hello, I'm new here to but will put my two pennies into.... Our Roo loved hiking and camping but summer heat got to her too, and she was way to snobby to carry a backpack. She would rather been carried herself.... Anything over 78 or so was way to warm for her.My point is maybe alonger beek nose breed would be better.Good luck on any decision you make.
 

goober

Boxer Pal
Wow! I thought this thread had died. I have been busy, and then i tried to get on here and it wouldn't let me on for a while. THanks for all the replies.

ok, to answer some questions. I used the phrase "high strung" for my dobie, when I probably should have said high energy. But he is that only part of the time. The main problem we have is him not accepting people when I say it is ok. We do not have visitors very often (we kind of live in a remote area) and I did try to socialize him when he was young, but then he got sick for a while, bacterial infection, about the time they are supposed to be socialized. Then when he got better, I went through a huge amount of stress, and could not take him out and about. His parents we saw through the door, and they paced the yard the entire time we were there. Please do not give the lectures on how to pick a pup. I have read all that. I know the mistakes I made back then, and would not trade him anyway. And I know what to do now. That's why I ask so many questions. I love to research. I knew going in what dobermans were supposed to be like, but life happens, especially when you make other plans for your dog. We got a doberman for protection, because at that time I needed it. When my neice (11 years old) came over for xmas, it took him 3 days to get used to her. But she was never afraid of him, and really liked playing with him once he settle down. When I take him for walks, he is always getting ahead of me just a little (on leash) I have worked with him on this for 2 years. I have tried every method. I am just a slower walker because of my health limitations. I need a dog that is a little more laid back, not lazy, but even a weimaraner is high energy. I had one when I was a kid for about 4-5 months ( he was a stray that showed up, parents got rid of him, wouldn't let me keep him.) I loved him dearly, but I have read enough to know that will be too much for me. I love from what I've read, how the boxers love children. I just wish my dobe would a little more. He is a wonderful dog with just us.

So, I know the boxers can overheat. But I'm very slow at hiking. And we have a dry heat, not humidity (not very often anyway) And would a boxer mix be better? They seem to have noses a little longer.

ok, questions on the training. I have studied different methods of training, since I was young. I have really settled on Cesar Milans dog psychology, and it has definately worked with my dogs. Without his methods we would have some really unhappy dogs. I have worked on the pack leadership and dominance issues since we brought him home 2 years ago. I take him for walks as much as possible, but it is out in the country. There I can let him run off leash and he wears out much better. In town, we play ball. I have to really watch him because both his back legs are deformed, and I am constantly watching for any signs of over working, and we quit. The vet says they are just deformed. I work with him everyday.

Lifestyle aside from hiking: well, i only get to hike a few times a week, and like I said, I'm really slow. Other than that, I am at home, finishing up homeschooling my son, before he leaves next year. I would like a companion that can go with me everywhere, likes people, but especially kids, and still protect "when" it is needed.

ok, does this answer everyone's questions?? did I miss anything? I saw a boxer in town the other day, a female, and she was absolutely gorgeous. I am going to talk to some people that have one, and I'll know better when I get up close to one, if its more what I want. I want something that will cuddle. Most times my dobe is just too royal and regal to cuddle. He can be loveable, but not to the extent that I would like. He can be aloof.
 

Alex C.

Super Boxer
We got a doberman for protection, because at that time I needed it.
??????... can you elaborate on this a bit more please?? Why would someone buy a dog for protection??? There are not very many people I know that need a dog for protection. You mean deterrance?

So, I know the boxers can overheat. But I'm very slow at hiking. And we have a dry heat, not humidity (not very often anyway) And would a boxer mix be better? They seem to have noses a little longer.
A Boxer may be fine for slow hiking, but in high heat, they will suffer. Their nose just doesn't help them. It sounds to me like a Pitbull or American Bulldog may be more what you want. Depending on size. Since you've had a Dobe, I'm sure a big dog won't bother you. I'd still prefer the Pitbull. There are very few dogs that love people as much as a Boxer, and a Pit is one of them

....I would like a companion that can go with me everywhere, likes people, but especially kids, and still protect "when" it is needed.
I work with protection dogs every week & I'm sorry to break this to you, but there are very few dogs that will actually "protect". And for those that do, it's not because they simply do, there is a lot of time & effort that goes into their training. Some breeds may be a good deterrance based on looks, but very few will protect. Don't base that on your breed selection. You will be dissapointed. From what you tell me, I think a Pit is a great option, they are great w/people, kids, energetic, but highly trainable, adapt easier to different climates, and they are so over-bred, you will easily find a great one in a shelter. They also make great watch dogs. There is a website called lawdogsusa.org. They are bomb detection & search and rescue dogs for the WA PD. They all come from shelters.
 

goober

Boxer Pal
"??????... can you elaborate on this a bit more please?? Why would someone buy a dog for protection??? There are not very many people I know that need a dog for protection. You mean deterrance? "

I'm sorry, I can't. I felt my life would be in danger. Just having him WAS a deterrence though.

As far as the pits, they are getting such a bad rep around here. There have been several attacks on people and other dogs. I know its "not the breed, just bad owners" but do not have time or the energy to "re-educate" people.

No one knows about boxer mixes?
 

goober

Boxer Pal
I'm a little confused also when I'm seeing the other threads on agility and other sports, which are much more intense than my slow walks?
 
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